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Reising Model 50
I have a Reising Model 50 in my shop, it is blue with 12 assorted 12 and 20 rd mags. Stock marked PPD (Plantation Police Dept. (1980). Anyone have or know where I can get addition info on these and what it might be worth?
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06-05-2010 08:59 AM
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My cousin is buying one from a friend and I know the gun well. Look at http://www.subguns.com to see what they actually sell for. Our thinking is that these unappreciated SMGs will be the next big deal for full auto collectors. As of now, a nice one will bring at least $4000.00. In a few years they will bring $8000.00. The reputation they have for unreliability is warranted in a combat situation with sand, dirt and stuff. "Ours" went to the New York PD just before the production run for the Marines. It runs perfectly and is deadly accurate. The rate of fire advertised as 450rpm or so is for the military who didn't want the 750 or so the gun actually produces. If I didn't live in Kalifornia, I would buy it.
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There is also a Reising forum (it's actually Reising section on an Uzi forum) you might try if you want to sell that way. Reising Talk - UZI Talk Forums
You shouldn't have any trouble selling it, especially with all those mags. They are pretty common "entry level" Class 3 guns.
Like said above, their reputation as a military weapon may not be so hot, but they are usually more than satisfactory for burning up ammo. I have one, and while it might be towards the bottom of the list to take if I had to go fight a war, it is towards the top of the fun list.
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Biggest problem with the Resing was the maintenance, quite literally.
The guys were firing corrosive ammo and would make up a bit pot of water at the end of the day, strip all the guns and dump the parts in, then take them out, dry them off and try to assemble their guns. BIG hassle was that Reisings were not completely serialled and bolts DID get mixed up and they were NOT interchangeable.
Some came up here a few years ago from Venezuela. I got one, a buddy ended up with another. Mine worked beautifully but his ABSOLUTELY REFUSED to cycle properly. Traced the trouble to the fact that his bolt wasn't able to close completely and a Reising can NOT fire without the bolt properly locked into place. Trimmed about 5 thou off the locking-shoulder on his bolt and the thing went without a bobble up until the Evil Day when you could no longer shoot these things in this Free Country of ours.
The problem, of course, was parts mix-up. A gun with a too-short bolt would be unreliable, sometimes miss ignition; a gun with a too-long bolt could not go into battery. Either way, if you had had some nice chap shooting at you with a Nambu, you were in very deep trouble.
It's getting on for 70 years now and I still cannot for the life of me figure why somebody didn't tell those guys, "Hey! Make sure your own bolt goes back into your gun!"
That must have been too much trouble.
Reising was dumped, given a bad rep for the next 2 generations and they are actually a darned fine gun: reliable, accurate and hard-hitting.
Hard-hitting? Yeah. That extra length of barrel gives you an extra 200 ft/sec by my Chrony!
Can't even IMAGINE a better 'special ops' gun; all the advantages of a de Lisle Carbine and semi-auto to boot! And FA on demand, should yours not have various parts cut out of its guts.
I really think that somebody should do a production run of Reising Model 60s: strict semi-auto.
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