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    How to get rid of a cartouch

    I have a rebuild Winchester on Gunbroker I was going to sell it and upgrade to a correct Win that I know is for sale. However I am having second thoughts about selling it. It is a really clean garand. The collector that I got it from has had it for a long time.He got is from a family who had it from the late 50s it was not a DCM rifle. I do not know how they got it. It is a win receiver 1287836 looks like original WW11 finish, chamber is in the white, a 3 45 SA barrel no chrome in the gas port, type 3 lock bar, uncut 9 oprod, bolt D28287-12 SA B-3, trigger group D28290-2 SA, trigger guard C46025 WRA, the hammer is a 6908- 5 SA I strongly suspect that this could possibly be a late WW11 rebuild gun. The only thing wrong is when my friend got it the buttstock looked like someone took a belt sander to it. So he found a beautiful tiger striped walnut post war stock that completely matched the handguards the only problem is some morron stamped a fake EMCF cartouch on it. I have 2 questions is there anyway to steam that fake cartouch out without ruining the original finish? It bugs the heck out of me. and is there anything about the parts that I have described that would preclude it from possibly being a late war rebuild? other then the buttstock? thanks
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    I'm afraid you'd have to take a belt sander to this stock as well...

    I think two or three times about selling the rifle, though. Maybe just the stock! Maybe you could throw some pics up of the offending unit for a look-see.

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    I am not good at taking clear up close pics but here goes

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    Start sanding with 100 and go up from there. Than clean the stock with denatured alcohol. Than finish with boiled linseed oilicon and sand with 400 wet dry paper. Make sure that you well oil the wet dry paper also.

    You will be much better off without that so called cartouch.

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    I may get some heat for this, but I would think about parting this one out because of it's special parts (barrel, receiver, rod, sights and triger group)
    If left intact, at best, it will be a "possible" WWII rebuild and at worst a mixmaster. The parts will bring far more than the intact gun and probally make someone doing a restoration very happy. Take your profits and buy something special.

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    I really hate to bust it up. I believe except for the buttstock it is just how it came out of GI rebuild. If I thought someone put it together that would be different. can someone with access to the SRS check the serial number just in case there may be a hit 1287836.

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    I'd just get another stock that's not irritating, and quit worrying. It's about unreasonable to expect that a early to mid WWII rifle kept the same stock from the day it left the factory floor anyway...A few RARE exceptions exist, but unless it's verifiable, it's just a fairy story.

    Our post war rebuild programs were VERY efficient. Too bad for the future collectors, but...
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    If you were to sell it, What would you ask. Looking for one. Rog

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    It is on gunbroker right now if it does not sale I will not relist it I will refinish the stock and keep it. I if does sale I will probably regret it. I may go ahead and pull it from the auction I do not know if they charge if you pull a item from the auction or not Winchester garand : Curios and Relics at GunBroker.com

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    Your post says the barrel date is 3-45. Your G.B. ad says 9-45.
    I don't think there were any 9-45 barrels.

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