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Wolf ammo? Anyone use it? What gr.
I want to dust off my two Ar-15s. I think I could have lots of fun shooting them with my son. He shoots smallbore with the local Jr rifle team. I want to ask you guys about ammo. I saw that Widener's has wolf for just about $200 per K. Looks like a good deal to me. What do you trhink. Also one upper is a colt the other a Bushmaster one has a 1/7 twist the other 1/9. should 55gr bulllets paper well in both? Thanks
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07-02-2010 01:29 PM
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It's good plinking ammo. Since I reload I always take a few boxes of Wolf 223 and 7.62 for range scroungers. My reloads are for me.
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If it is steel cased I would think twice about using it. If you do, keep an extra extractor handy. I've seen two break with steel cased ammo. One was a Colt and the other was a Bushmaster.
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Thanks for the tip about the extractor. What do you think about about the 55gr bullet in both a 1/7 and 1/9 twist barrel?
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No my gunsmith said he wouldnt warranty the extreactor if I used it in my AR15
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IF the bullet jackets are of uniform thickness (concentric) and overall bullet quality is good, then 55gr bullets will shoot fine in a 1 in 7 twist barrel. If the bullets aren't quite so good the accuracy seems to usually become rather poor.
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Over all the 55 gr. bullet will shoot in both of your AR's but they will not be as accurate as a heavier bullet would be with those rates of twist. The best rate for the 55 gr bullet is a 1 in 12 or 1 in 14 twist. I do not use Wolf or an steel cased ammo in my AR or my other USGI firearms. Some people swear by the Wolf and others swear at it. I have used the Wolf in my AK and SKS and both have been fine with it but there were designed from the start to use steel cased ammo. I have found it to be dirty compared to other makes.
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I have have used Wolf in all of my AR's, it is dirty but good plinking ammo. I use 55gr Silver Bear most of the time and it does well esp out of my A1 upper which has a 1-12 twist. But for quanity range time get a dedicated 22lr upper or conversion unit. 500 pulls on a trigger for 18.00 is a bargin and the fun can't be beat. Kids love it!
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Oly Arms excludes it from my AR's diet. It's funny, though. A friend bailed out of his AR and gave me a bag-full of the stuff and I haven't been able to convince anyone to take it off my hands.
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Silver Bear and Golden Bear Barnaul 223 (nickel plated and copper washed) work well in the ARs. Barnaul is much cleaner than Wolf, and the nickel and brass washed cases do not hang up like the lacquer and "Polyformance" Wolf does. I had several different M4geries, and none like Wolf, but did great with the Barnaul. Barnaul has brown bear lacquer coated 223, and it will stick like Wolf.
PMC and Centurion M193 is running $330-350/1,000, so I would pay a little more for brass case. Also, both Barnaul and Wolf have very thick jackets and do not break up, but rely on bullet yaw like 5.45x39. American made M193 uses a thinner jacket and the M193 will fragment down to about 2,500 fps or so. That means from a full 16" rifled barrel like M4gery or CAR 15, M193 will fragment to about 200+ meters (YMMV). I am going to use a 16" ER Shaw pencil barrel with a slip over FH on my retro XM177E2 clone I am building, so I like the American M193.
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