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Good morning John …

Easy now partner …

Ron (Claven2) is just doing his job, it's not personal and he's simply enforcing the site rules.

When a visitor first signs up to become a Registered Member of the Military Surplus Collectors Forums, they responded "I AGREE" to an on-line contract (click here), in order to become a Registered Member. Unfortunately, this agreement never appears anywhere on the system after that, so just in case anyone ever needs to reference what they agreed to, here is the contract that's been acknowledged:

Forum Rules (click here)

Registration to Military Surplus Collectors Forums is free! This site is designed to encourage the open exchange of information amongst the general military surplus collector community, thereby helping all of our members to better enjoy their chosen hobby. It's not a venue for discussing the politics of firearms ownership or the practices and policies of various governments trying to control them. We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Please note that once you register and create posting content, we will be unable to delete your registered name and posted content without affecting other members and the coherency of our database. Therefore, if you decide not to use this site in the future, simply delete your bookmark pointing to this site and do not log in any more, however, all existing past content will remain accessible.

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This is a private site, not a public right of access. The owners of Military Surplus Collectors Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason, as well as BAN anyone from accessing Military Surplus Collectors Forums. In addition, the owners wish to maintain a site with an active membership, who participate in the forums and use the Milsurp Knowledge Library regularly. As a result, the membership database may periodically be purged of members who have not logged in within the last six months.

I have read, and agree to abide by the Military Surplus Collectors Forums rules.

I do understand your sensitivity to perceived censorship, but it has absolutely nothing to do with that. Actually, if the truth be told, you and I would probably stand shoulder to shoulder and agree on 99.9% of any political rhetoric and discussions if permitted to be posted here, but that's not the mandate of our site, which is supposed to be purely about collecting old milsurps and enjoying a hobby we all love.

There are enough other gun sites on the Internet with publicly accessible forums (you don't have to even register) which are about politics, Obama, Muslims, immigration, ugly looking women democrats and other silly nonsense, often generated by the same un-moderated loose cannons sharing their frustrations in the same sandbox. That stuff can spread like wildfire and destroy the unity of a site (except for the chosen few) very quickly, so I simply don't want to see it get any kind of foothold here.

I was personally disappointed to see you express your desire to leave our site and go elsewhere, as you do help and provide a lot of information to old and novice collectors alike, which I know is appreciated, however, if you feel strongly enough about the need to vent politically here and that's a barrier to you enjoying everything else we offer, then you will be missed.

This particular post is now closed. I felt that although it was referencing rules about governments trying to control firearms and was a little on the border of a political discussion, that it's content posted by Brian Dick was valuable and important for the community to understand in relation to some categories of old milsurps and how it could affect their collecting hobby with the inability to import and export vis-a-vis the U.S.

That point has been made and it's apparent to me that as always happens and the reason we have the no politics rule in the first place, this thread is heading toward becoming loaded with vitriol and highly divisive, so it ends here …

Thanks Brian.. on behalf of the entire membership, notwithstanding how it ended, we do appreciate the heads up posting of this thread.

Regards,
Doug