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    There are at least five different versions of the South African stamp.

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    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc5icon View Post
    In 1961, the UKicon had only recently switched to the FN -FAL. Lee Enfields continued to be used officially in places like India throughout the 60s and 70s....some even today.

    And in these modern times of plastic, short-range rifles with all sorts of flashlights, ipods, and pez dispensers sticking out of them, it is good to remember that well-built bolt action rifles (that have been decently maintained) can probably do their job just as well as they did 100 years ago. A Lee Enfield cannot check your email for you, but it can still reliably feed potent ammo and hit targets hard out to some considerable distance. Milk has an expiration date, but good rifles don't.
    Yes, I quite agree about the lack of expiry dates, although a MLE sighted for MkVI or earlier is not quite the same thing as a No4 sighted for MkVII.

    Looking at that link it seems there is a lack of information on these marks in general, or at least a lot of uncertainty about the whys and wherefores.

    Hopefully someone will research this in SA while the people who would know are still alive.
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    A gunsmith, who was a South African military armourer during WW II and shortly afterwards, told me personally that he applied the U Diamond marking to rifles that were for sale to the public. It is certainly not a marking that came in following the Republic in 1961.

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    Thanks for that one, Terrylee! I had this awful vision of 90-year old Burghers hiding out in the veldt and awaiting a column of 90-year-old Britishicon cavalry, all of them swilling Geritol while they got into position for one last fray!

    That said, this IS a darned fine rifle! Magazine Lee-Enfield Mark I*, all correct. I would not be surprised if this one were an actual veteran of that sad, terrible conflict. Only wish mine was as pretty.

    Wonderful chunk of history! How does she shoot?
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