Delisle carbine photos.

[Badger]

Peter, why is your location shown as a well-known motorway service station? Do you live there, or are you on the road with some snazzy mobile comms....?!

For privacy, safety and security reasons, the location accuracy level is generalized to an area, dependent upon the IP address block that's being serviced ...

So, in some cases it's closer than others, vis-a-vis distance from the IP provider's switching station ...

Regards,
Doug

[Peter Laidler]

Several years ago a good friend of mine came to see our DeLisles and made a what can only be described as a SUPERB copy of one. When I say superb, I mean beyond words........ But as an engineer in the motor racing industry with CNC facilities and sound facilities to test it afterwards, that's what you'd expect. Even then, it did pose many problems. The main ones being the random nature of SMLE bodies and milling away a partial diameter to accommodate the barrel etc etc. When he returned to -- several years later, he took it with him

Certainly a worthwhile project but only if you copy the real McCoy I fear............ I have to say that I had thought of converting a deactivated No1 but question whether this, even if the resulting DeLisle was deactivated (on the back of the original deacted No1) would its original deact status be void?

[Brit plumber]

As Peter has said, its a bad copy. Unless it was some sort of pre prduction model (Which I doubt very much), the rear sight is a SMLE item, not a Lanchester Mk1 sight, the end cap is wrong, it should have a series of holes around the bottom. The for sight sits to high (Possibly to relate the SMLE rear sight), there are no sling swivels, the original .303 ejector screw was in the wrong place for the .45 so it was removed and I think a little spring thing was added along the left side. The for stock design is all wrong, it should be a 2 piece design with a short band between the 2 parts. The other things I noticed were the charger bridge rivet holes appear to have been filled, the carbines I've observed had the holes left, why fill the holes yet leave the cutout for the bridge in the right side of the for stock?

Also just noticed that the bolt head has a .303 extractor and corresponding slot machined in the end of te barrel. The real mcoy has a diffrent extractor and no coresponding slot in the barrel

[bouletbill]

I don't collect deacts (don't want a gun if it doesn't go bang , or at least pop) but I've been given the impression that all new deacts have a proof-house certificate , although I don't know how much detail goes on it . I suspect plod will get quite excitable if he finds something that does not conform . He will chuck the book at you ... you know , the one he wrote himself .

Peter , is your "facility" at Warminster open to the public , or by invite only ?

[Brit plumber]

You could convert a Deac SMLE into a Deac carbine and have it re-proofed as a deac, that way all parts get the stamp and a new cert with .45 and new barrel length printed on it. If I had access to the parts (And equipment), I'd have a go, it would prove to expensive for me to buy a deac SMLE, Thompson, Lanchester Mk1 etc. to make a deac delisle. I do know of a very expensive UK made replica, a very very good one made off the plans, (there are live versions available also) deactivated £2500.

[Mr303]

Hi Peter, so you have spent some time in NZ?

[jmoore]

Yikes! Doesn't look at all the same on a REAL monitor. Stiil, I don't have squat first hand experience, so every little bit helps! Any real DeLisle photos handy?

ETA: Yah, I've a few references including a small book for the weapon, but they rarely get read because they just don't litter the countryside. Apperently not memorized very well, they aren't.

[peregrinvs]

I've been given the impression that all new deacts have a proof-house certificate , although I don't know how much detail goes on it .

Legally a certificate has to be issued by the Proof House when they pass a gun as being correctly deactivated. The details include the type of gun, the person or company who submitted it for certification and the name of the person who passed it. Interestingly the certificate isn't a legal requirement of onward sale or transfer - the legal proof of deactivation are the markings stamped on the gun by the Proof House.

However, as a deact without a certificate is less Mr. Plod friendly, it reduces their value. Sometimes this can work to a buyers advantage as a seller can think it reduces the value more than it actually does. (A replacement certificate costs about £40)

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have it re-proofed as a deac

A quick nit-pick: by definition you cannot proof a deact - a gun is certified as a deact.

Probably like I ought to be...

Mark

[enfield303t]

I saw a original one about two weeks ago that had been converted with a regular heavy barrel and not the type of barrel that the original ones that has a very interesging story with it. I agree with Peter that IF I get a chance I will buy it I will buy the gun NOT the story. I do know however the owner and the story is probably legit and hope to be able to tell the story some day.

[GDU]

Once again it's a case of buy the rifle and not the story. And, yet again, my pet peeve, it'd be nice to know at least which Country you/he lived. If it were the UK, you could come and see a few...., but without knowing

Sorry,I am new to this particular forum and did not realise it never stated my location on the left.
The gun is in New Zealand ,the British armourer retired to Auckland.
The bloke who now owns it has had it for 30 odd years,and its not for sale I just thought I would find out for him if there was any chance it was authentic.
The fore end was missing when he got it and he made one to suit.
Thanks for the replies,

GDU