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    Will someone post a full list of all the parts and markings I need to get pictures of ? Thanks.

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    So, after much deliberation, I think I'm going to sell my M1icon. I really want an M4/AR15. And I really have no use for this carbine. I'd rather someone get some use out of it who can really appreciate it, not that I don't, I'm just not much of a collector. I'm a shooter and I don't want to ruin such a nice rifle for plinking. What do you guys think? Bad idea?

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    My wife can't seem to find our camera anywhere. That's why pictures aren't up yet.

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    To help ID parts go to this link and download a copy of the DATA SHEET.
    If you can fill it out and mail it along, The Club would appreciate it....
    The Carbine Club - A CMPicon Affiliated Organization
    I have this all filled out. Can anyone price it off of this data sheet?

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    Silens,

    Unfortunately there's really no way for anyone to give you more than an educated guess at the true value of your carbine without detailed photos.
    The old saying; 'A picture is worth a 1000 words' applies about ten fold when trying to determine the approximate current market value of collectible guns, and the M1icon carbine has more variables than most any gun that I know of.

    If you have the ability, scan the data sheet you filled out and attach it to a post, or just make a post and all the markings you located.
    If all the markings turn out to be 'correct' then we're really onto something!

    Keep in mind M1 carbines have had a mystic about them to many people for years and prices have gone through the roof depending on maker, originality, (etc. to the tenth power!)
    The problem here is that any time something becomes valuable, there are some people who will cash in and deceive.
    There are 'fake' carbine parts and accessories out the wazoo today, and many of them have been produced for years now.
    There are also many carbines that have been 'restored' so they look to be original.
    (On and on...)
    Your sling alone could be worth near $100 if rare and authentic, but it could be a $10 reproduction.
    (We can usually tell for almost certain, or at least a good consensus if you provide good photos)

    From your descriptions, and the story, your carbine sounds as if it might be very desirable, but please don't get your hopes up too much until you are able to post photos here.
    All too often, 'We' get excited when we hear a story that sounds like someone stumbled blindly across a 'Holy Grail' but later when photos appear, the carbine turns out to be, well, 'less than envisioned' or a serious flaw jumps out and the new guy is then very disappointed.
    The law of average is stacked against you.

    That said,
    Please take your time, or you could very well be kicking yourself later.
    A true 'bring-back' carbine in original condition is very rare and can fetch well over $1000.
    (Or how much someone is willing to pay!)

    As Jim pointed out, you were extremely fortunate to buy a carbine in any condition for only $250. If you cannot locate your camera, or borrow one, I'd invest an inexpensive digital camera.
    (Heck, you need your own camera anyway!)

    This forum is an asset that is rarely found these days, There are many actual carbine experts here (not me) who are willing to help you for free!
    They've (we've) spent hundreds of dollars on books alone, not to mention the many other financial headaches and heartaches over the years, 'fibs' to wives, stealing the kid's lunch money...

    Sorry for the long dissertation Silensm, but this barely scratches the surface as far as researching these interesting weapons, and then assessing market value, or how much you should realistically expect your carbine to sell for.

    Who knows; after you do more research you may get hooked and never think about speaking of an M1 carbine and one of those 'black guns' in the same sentence again!

    I'm looking forward and hoping for the best!

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    I bought a camera last night. Pictures will be up soon. Thanks cafdaw.

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    Thank you all for the info. The guys at CMPicon got all straightened out for me.
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    Pictures were there for a while, now they are gone. Looked pretty nice.

    A few things I noticed. Sling looked like a repo to me. Hammer was changed from dogleg to straight, stock cut down to low wood. All I saw before the pictures went away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    Pictures were there for a while, now they are gone. Looked pretty nice.

    A few things I noticed. Sling looked like a repo to me. Hammer was changed from dogleg to straight, stock cut down to low wood. All I saw before the pictures went away.
    Sorry I didn't realize I deleted it.

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    You do have a nice carbine but at best it's a restoration. The stock has been through a rebuild at Underwood in the late 40's and that's where the large U came from. The stock also had a type 2 or 3 barrel band on it as can be seen by the makings on the stock from the later band and it has been cut down to a low wood from a high wood. The hammer is not correct for your carbine. Many of the parts are correct for your rifle and the value with the parts it has is close to what the dealer offered you.

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    Silens,

    Very nice carbine. It's not the 'Holy Grail' but a very nice carbine. (Great photos too!)

    Bruce is correct on all points, (as usual)

    Jim is correct about the sling. It's a modern reproduction.

    You still got a screaming deal. It's worth a little more than three times what you paid for it!

    Has 'carbinitis' begun to set in yet? Having a hard time taking your eyes off of it, and a strange feeling you need another one or ten to go with it?
    One member here has carbinitis so bad he was found passed out in bed hugging a carbine barrel like a Teddy Bear when he was seriously injured and near death. (True!)

    I'd have a hard time parting with it.
    Have you shot it yet?

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