Need Help on Proof Marks on Rifle

[Patrick Chadwick]

I just wanted to wake you all up on this dreary Sunday morning
Normally I am correct with designations etc, and definitely not cutesy, but sometimes one just gets that "what the hell does it matter" feeling.

OK now, weather cleared up, and I am so glad I avoided the N and A words
- it is always more complicated than you think!
I had forgotten that the import regulations differentiate as follows: guns with a recognized civil proof need not undergo re-proofing.
So my Enfield No. 8s have the BNP civil proofs and did not need a new proof when imported.

But my No. 4 Mk2 from the very late (if not last) UF55A batch has the good old crossed pennants, but no civil proofs.
Yes, I did remove the handguards to check on the barrel.
No, I am not going to take the perfectly bedded system out of the stock to see if there is anything underneath!
And this rifle has, consistent with the regulations, a dated German proof mark and ".303 Brit" stamped on as well.

Johnny, you have made me curious now. Several shooters of my acquaintance have rifles from this batch, and those I have handled all appear to have been imported by Frankonia around 1970. Hence my use of the word "truckload".

I shall check any Enfield that I can over the next weeks, and report back when I feel I have seen enough.

Patrick

[Harlan (Deceased)]

I shall check any Enfield that I can over the next weeks, and report back when I feel I have seen enough.

Patrick

Please do Mr Chadwick. I enjoy examining small markings and things such as this myself.

I'm very sorry to hear about your physical limitations and hope it's temporary.
I've been through the same with spine problems/surgeries and couldn't fire any of my milsurps other than M1 carbines.

Mostly, I only wanted to let you know that I tremendously enjoyed reading your upbeat post this morning! (It made my day)
Yes! We do sometimes take ourselves too seriously - in many ways!
(and sometimes just come across that way in the unique world of 'posting')

Best regards,
~ Harlan

[Doug Rammel]

You could call it Remmy also.

I was amazed at the description of the rifle from those three poor pictures.

To me it's a 200 to 250 Dollar Bubba Rifle.

My two pennies

[mike16]

I assumed it was an m19179(p17) because of all the US DofA inspection stamps. I cant tell from the reciever.

what do they call bubba'd rifles in England?

I think Ferris's book goes into the evolution of all the designations and why it was called the p17.

mine is an m1917 eddystone, it aint a mauser and it aint a enfield, teadrinker!

[Patrick Chadwick]

Mike, a useful British technical term is FUBAR. Which is an abbreviation of F..... Up Beyond All Recognition.
Same evolutionary source as Bubbared, which I take to be a disguised version of "bu..ered".

I.e. for use when one wishes to remain polite, but feels VERY strongly that something has been spoilt by cack-handed incompetent clueless pig-headed bloody-minded fools who shouldn't be allowed to touch a paper bag, let alone anything more complex.

I think that should suffice to give the general idea. Sometimes "Oh dear!" is just not adequate.

[Chuckindenver]

back to the OP,s rifle, i dont see any British or other lend lease type markings, only standard markings from the US military use, rifle looks like any other sporterized 17 done back in the 1950,s by any gunsmith, likely a good shooter, and very strong.