Expected accuracy with a Bren?

[gravityfan]

Does anyone know the specified or expected accuracy of a Bren, MkI/II in particular?

My iron sight shooting isn't good, but I'm wondering how much of my 4 moa is the Bren, and how much is my shooting.

From a fixed device like a Ransom Rest, what should it be capable of doing?

Cheers.

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[Peter Laidler]

I'll look up the technical spec for the accuracy test but it's well outside the spec required for the rifle. Have you got the EMER handy Tankie? Or Skippy?

[skiprat]

OH if only...... I have a few Bren gun spares (labled "Bren 7.62mm") thanks to more armourers not doing their job properly and not disposing obsolete spares
.... but all my EMERs have gone to the shredder!!!!!!! as its....." all in the AESP now" how little they know..
I don't even have EMER s for the No8 rifles that I need to maintain...
"THEY" KNOW BEST

[Peter Laidler]

I know just what you mean Skippy........ I'll have a look in the library copy. If you can find a No8 EMER it'd be useful

[tankhunter]

Pete, The user handbook states for the Bren: Range 25 Yds: MPI in Relation to Point of Aim: Sights set at 200 Yds: 1.1/4" above & & 1" right. & fall of shot NOT Exceeding 1/2" Below.
Range: 100 Yds: MPI in Relasion to point of Aim: Sights set at 200 Yds: 5 Inches Above & 1" to the Right, Ideal. & fall of shot NOT exceeding 2" above or below.

There were eight sizes of foresight available for the adjustment of vertical erroes. Each size gives a theorectical alteration of 3.48 or approx 3.5" at 100 Yds on a MKI & II. A MKIII would be 4.5".
at 25 Yds A MKI & II it would be 0.87 or Approx 7/8ths of an inch. A MK III would give you approx 1".

There were eight sizes of foresight blades available. .46, .43, .40, .37, .34, .31, .28, .25.

[gravityfan]

100 Yds: fall of shot NOT exceeding 2" above or below.

So that is about 4 moa, then? It doesn't mention an acceptable width of the pattern, might one assume width=height?

Thanks indeed for the foresight info. Very useful.

Maybe I'll re-mount the home-made dovetail picatinny mount and try with a scope to reduce my aiming errors.

Cheers.

[Peter Laidler]

You might be interested to know that the very last version of the Bren, The L4A9 had a dovetail mount on the left hand side so that it could take the night sight. Used in the watchtowers and along the borders in Northern Ireland. Not too successful because the heavy sight would tip the Bren/L4 over to the left and fall on the actual night sight, cracking the OG lens (£250 or so.....) and shearing off the screws that hold the inverter housing cover in place. The IIW sight bracket dovetail effectively meant that the Bren had gone full circle

How is your picatinny rail mounted?

[tankhunter]

[QUOTE=Peter Laidler;153657]You might be interested to know that the very last version of the Bren, The L4A9 had a dovetail mount on the left hand side so that it could take the night sight. Used in the watchtowers and along the borders in Northern Ireland. Not too successful because the heavy sight would tip the Bren/L4 over to the left and fall on the actual night sight, cracking the OG lens (£250 or so.....) and shearing off the screws that hold the inverter housing cover in place. The IIW sight bracket dovetail effectively meant that the Bren had gone full circle

And that Bracket looks VERY similar to the one on the L7A2 (GPMG). BUT, it is made from steel, & the L7 variant is Aliuminium! (Just for Bren Spotters!) LOL!

[Kev G]

The SS20 night sight is expensive but available,if you have an L4A9 to put it on.
How widely issued (if at all ?) were the AAAD sights cos I'll been looking for donkeys years and never had a sniff !



ATB Kevin

[skiprat]

there was a AAAD sight (as above) on evilBay last month, it went for £51 I just missed it ..but it did go to a good home