Penrith gun show - good place buy enfields?

[BushyFromOz]

mistake, post deleted

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Unfortunately for you Aussies its Penrith UK, not Penrith Australia

The wife and i were wondering how the heck we lived in penrith and never noticed that sign at the train station.

[Pablo]

I've seen lots of good No4's in that price range on usedguns.com.au lately. I think a really good matching No4 from any of the manufacturers would be a great start in no4's. Why not buy one of those really good looking Savages on usedguns for around the $6-700 mark. Not dirt cheap, but if they're as good as they look the prices are reasonable.

I've seen those, but before i bought one i wanted to ask about the penrith gun show and if you get a better deal there. NO seems to be the answer.
I guess my next question is - is there any benefit buying a mk1 over a mk1*?

[Alan de Enfield]

I've seen those, but before i bought one i wanted to ask about the penrith gun show and if you get a better deal there. NO seems to be the answer.
I guess my next question is - is there any benefit buying a mk1 over a mk1*?

In brief - a Mk1 would be better as the Mk1* does have the potential to get a chipped 'bolt head rail'. It is not a huge problem but it can happen.

If you can find a Mk1 Savage or Longbranch they were produced in far fewer numbers than the Mk1* so are more valuable / collectable.

Fazakerly, BSA and Maltby were all Mk1 production

[Peter Laidler]

Our English town of Penrith was named after the Penrith in Australia according to my pal from the MT section in 7 RAR.

[tbonesmith]

Some people like the rear bolt release on the mk1 more than the front bolt release on the Mk1*. But it's just a preference, they are both fine for use and collecting. After you get this one you'll get the other later anyway...

[Brit plumber]

Our English town of Penrith was named after the Penrith in Australia according to my pal from the MT section in 7 RAR.

Oh how dare he! Penrith is my home town, I was born at Carlton Hall Police headquarters, and no, my mother wasn't in the cells! My father was based there.

I think Penrith comes from the celtic words for red hill as the whole area is built on red sand stone and there is a big hill, most of my family is from the nearby village of Culgaith which is on the famous Carlisle to Settle railway. And it think Peter knows Carlisle well, its also where I joined the RAF.

[Peter Laidler]

I wouldn't worry about it tooooo much BP. He also told me after a few beers that Australia was discovered by Marco Polo. I was under the impression that Sir Marco opened up China............. but maybe he discovered Australia on the way BACK from opening up China. A bit like Sir Walter Raleigh inventing the bicycle.

Anyway, when I was upo in that end of the world, it was the Carlisle Cumberland and Westmoreland Police. None of this Cumbria rubbish!

[Alan de Enfield]

I was born at Carlton Hall Police headquarters, and no, my mother wasn't in the cells! My father was based there.
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Your Father gave birth - amazing, you must be one proud Son !!!

(LOL - cannot find any smilies)

[Brit plumber]

In Cumbria (Cumberland) its the men folk who give birth and tender the children while the women go hunting Boar. Have you ever seen a Cumbrian woman? I'll send you a photo of the missus, looks a little like me mum!

[bearhunter]

Pablo, unless you are fixated on a No4 MkI model of either type, and no reason you shouldn't be, have a look at the POF No4 Mk II rifles. They can be found in the same condition ranges as their earlier cousins and outwardly look identical. They are built on ex UK equipment and stocked in some very dark though well figured Circassian Walnut. The one I have doesn't have the reinforcing screw in the fore end but most do. The bore in mine measures to .310 and seems to like both .311 and .308 bullets. It really likes the pulled bullets from the hang firing CETME rounds I purchased for the components. Over all an excellent Lee Enfield and very robust. Personally, I don't mind the dreaded "Ishy screw". As PL has mentioned many times here, it is an acceptable repair. To tell the truth, IMHO it is also a very prudent move that can save a lot of money and time in the long run. Ex Turkish, Italian, Norwegian, Canadian, indian, Pakistani etc issued No4 rifles can all be very nice. Some people I know, collect No 4s that have been in the service of other nations, rather than by manufacter, dates or variations. Certainly a bit easier for a tight budget or as in many cases, limited firearms numbers allowed. Whatever you decide, keep it fun and interesting as well as doable. Try not to exceed your realistic limits. That doesn't mean you should give up on finding your holy grail though.