Mk1 butstock on a Mk11 lower

[smlemk111]

Thanks for all the information and help I have gotten on this forum I have been an Enfield and other british arms collector for 25 years but have just gotten into Brens which I shot 45 or so years ago when I was in the Queens own Cameron Hightlanders a malita unit back in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. I have the book the Bren saga and am looking forward to Peter Laidlers "who I met one time when on a tour of Military museums with Ian Skenerton and a bunch of othe folks" book . Alan Abramson

[Brit plumber]

You can see the loop on the back of my L4A2/4, this one came from the Falklands Islands defence force and I assumed it was a local Mod by them

[Brit plumber]

Well I had some inglis and Monotype Mk2 butts off and I found the Inglis Mk2 lowers had the wider holes the same as the Mk1 lowers and my Daimler marked Mk2 had the wider bottom hole and the narrower top hole. Anyone else got their butt off?

[tankhunter]

You're right Tankie, it was one or the other. But another slight variation none the less, that some Bren fiends won't be aware of.

Peter, Whilst trawling for other info, I found the relevant E.M.E.R Info yesterday. E567, Mod no.10, it came into effect in 1986. Page three has a perfect drawing of the Mod to the buttplate.
it would seem that this mod would have been standard across the L4 Range & WOULD, IF it had been implemented to ALL in Service guns at the time. Would heve meant that ALL in Service guns WOULD have had this mod done.
Hope this is of some small help?

[Peter Laidler]

I didn't realise that it was that late in the guns life. I've seen it done on the old .303 guns of all marks that have the lightweight Mk4 butt fitted. So maybe they did do it across the board.

In case anyone's confused about the butts, and going from memory now.........
Butt, Mk1 the usual original type. Several variations of butt plate
Butt, Mk2, the butt with the flat butt plate and right side recessed sling loop. Two variations of butt plate. W and w/o overhang
Butt, Mk3, lightweight version of the Mk2 butt, modified for the proposed Mk4 gun. One variation of butt plate
Butt, Mk4, production Mk3 butt. Two variations of butt plate. Standard and modified