Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
Strange I was in a city of MILLIONS and everyone I inquired about (every worker, employee, waitress, waiter et all) or talked to only had one child....the reality is they are short of workers and the loop holes may exist on paper but not in reality for the great majority of Chinese. .
And for many Chinese, having more then one kid since pre-one child policy was considered too much. The brithrate in the early 1970's was lower then it is today in China, due to the fact that for many people, having a child was considered a burden.

Funny thing is, for many people in Canadaicon and the US, like other developed countries, people think having kids is too much of a burden so they stopped having them. We just labelled them as "career" people, but the fact remains.

Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
A society can not sustain its existance with a birth rate of 1.21% (the minimum requirement if 2.11%) the most optomistic figures put the birth rate at 1.4% however no one thinks those figures are correct. .
A society's self sustainability depends on many factors, not just brith rate. Take Canada for example, not only do we have a LOWER brith rate then China, we also have a higher death rate. In the end, only immegration helps us keep up alittle. And not by much considering.

The Chinese population increases by 0.494% a year, (including all factors), or 6.57 million people a year, where as the Canadian population is at 0.804% or a mere 270 thousand people.

Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
In 2005 there were 119 males born for every 100 females, and in some areas the rate was 130 to 100 females.
I would like to see that high number from somewhere factual, CIA WFB lists:

  • at birth: 1.14 male(s)/female
  • under 15 years: 1.17 male(s)/female
  • 15-64 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
  • 65 years and over: 0.93 male(s)/female
  • total population: 1.06 male(s)/female (2010 est.)
Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
The Gov't wants to appear to be more "family friendly" but it is all a smoke screen..
The girlfriend/fiance, comes from a family of 5 childern (born in China), and her older siblings already have multipul kids each. So I really don't know what kind of smoke screen your talking about?

Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
In regard to the cost of having two children, well how about the latest story that was published in the last couple of weeks...second child, female...fine 232,400.00 CNY.... $35,000.00 Canadian.
I'd love to see that in writting, however my bet is that that was more about the curruption of fines for multipul kids then anything. Then again there are Chinese making 60+ thousand USD a year in China, so a 35,000$ fine for some may be appropriate. Too many variables without factual numbers and reasons for why that happened.

Dimitri