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    I find it interesting that there was a recent thread that showed a U.I.C. No.32 Mk.2 S/N 270 that had O.S. 1650.

    So did Vickers run separate S/N blocks for each type or were they all in the same run? Until recently, I had no idea there were U.I.C. Mk.2s (versus 2/1s).

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    This is only my guesstimate from the few UIC scopes I've owned & from the few more I know of others, but I suspect that they started again from the beginning with each new mark. I have seen both high & low serials of both Mk2's & 2/1's (eg one & two digits & others in the several hundreds). Most of the very few Mk1's I've heard of were serialled in the low one hundreds......

    Peter, what say you??

    ATB

    PS. I've edited in this addendum after having seen Peter's comments on another posting from last week on UIC's. (Sorry I was over there again picking up bits of rusty junk (as my wife calls it) on The Somme.....am still catching up with forum matters......!) Thanks for the comments Peter. IIRC I have Mk2 serial no 9, Mk2 over-engraved on Mk1 tube serial no 12X & Mk2/1 serial no 43. I have had in the past a couple of high numbered 2/1's in the several hundreds range.
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    Alrighty then! Until a matched set of U.I.C.s show up with the same S/N but of both Mk.2 AND Mk.2/1 mfg., we'll just have to ponder what kind of nutty assembly shop(s) they were running...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    the front pad screw slots don't align with the centre puch marks, ATB
    I would not worry about the front pad screws not being in line, they come loose now and again , mine did and I had to solder it back on and retighten the screws which now don't line up with the punch marks.
    I belive it was a common problem from reading Mr Peter Laidlericon's books and post's.

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    It sold for 3800.00. Question why are there 2 serial numbers for the scope on the rifle? The first number 54 is the actual serial number and then 36 below that.


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    The 36 is most likely the rack number from a previous unit. Attached is another example.

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    "Englandicon is pricey and I am wondering if they have to pay the 20% Vat on top of the price or is it included? Or do they pay VAT on used items? I will have to remember if I ever want to sell my T's to market them in England...".

    In the light of the Gunbroker 4T's sale price of $3,800, perhaps the price of £3,500 for the one in the UK seems less-than-shocking? After all, it includes ".. Wooden Chest No 15 Mk 1; Scope Tin No 8 Mk1; Scout Regiment Telescope; Cleaning kit and Spare Magazine. An original leather sniper sling is present.." No VAT on second-hand items, by the way. Do the sum and you'll see - a transit chest will set you back at least £500, a Scout Regt scope £300, scope tin £200, etc...

    However, what worries me about all 4T's is that there are apparently now more of them in circulation than ever went through Holland and Holland. To repeat the old line about Matisse: "He painted 800 pictures, 2,000 of which are now in America".

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    ON the question of pad screws, I used to tell the Armourers to reverse the usual practice. That is, to stake the corresponding part of the screw head into the slot in the pad. Screws are cheap by the bucketfull and it preserves the life of the pad especially on some of our old and well worn/used L42's that we were using. So if you're about to embark on refitting the screws, please do this to yours

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