What bought it home to me jc5icon was someone phoned me up to ask about a telescope and when I said go to page XYZ, he asked me to wait a few seconds as he was flicking through a few sheets he'd copied from his friends book........... Another was someones L42 complete to the CES, but inside was a self copied L42 user handbook when perfect copies are available.......... I don't have copies for sale so have no vested interest - except that, as I said earlier, I got stung when my son was caught downloading music and swopping it with his friends at school. I look on things slightly differently now. But, 'Same meat, different gravy' as they say in Englandicon

Any other views out there................ Or are we going off the subject