Thoughts on the Huber Concepts trigger?

[Peter Laidler]

Yep........., after reading all that I'm a firm believer in that if it ain't broke, then don't fix it

[Thunderbox]

I must admit, I can't see the point of after-market triggers at all. Enfields (No1, No3 & No4 action) with standard triggers were used by many of the world's leading target shots up until the 1980s, and hence the triggers clearly do not inhibit top-class shooting (I have the rifle which won the 1990 Commonwealth games shooting at 900x and 1000x - its a completely bog standard Envoy with a Madco barrel screwed in). I note that no commercial hunting version of an Enfield (Parker Hale, Lee Speed, etc) has ever had a replacement trigger mechanism fitted - other than the modification needed for a tang safety interrupter.

The standard Enfield trigger can be fine-tuned to practically any desired effect, if necessary. I've got a couple of P14 target rifles with after-market triggers, and they don't appear to be in any way superior to identical rifles that have simply had their military triggers/ sears slightly polished up.

[me2]

I like the Huber Concepts triggers but I dont think the basic design of the Enfield trigger lends itself to any type of aftermarket gizmo. As Peter said best left alone. My Huber triggers are on model 98 Mausers and also Springfields. That's where they shine. No polishing and fussing around, just install, adjust and you've got a light single stage trigger for about 20 minutes work. These are on sporting rifles. My Milsurps have issue triggers on them and some are worse than others but I'm not into shooting coyotes and groundhogs at 700 yds or entering some military match competition with these rifles. They are simply my "fun guns".

[jmoore]

I must admit, I can't see the point of after-market triggers at all.

On Enfields or most any other milsurp bolt rifle, I don't either. However, for uniformity, I've converted my AR platform rifles to two stage triggers/FCGs. Even the USMC is allowing the Geissele aftermarket trigger for combat operations, so... (SSF model- "go fast" is still single stage, BTW, which is a useful "feel" difference)

geissele.com
Never did understand the appeal of a single stage trigger, especially when it's uber light.

[Rumpelhardt]

I have noticed that if I shoot one of my other rifles before shooting one of my Enfields that it takes me a few shots to adjust to the Enfields trigger but that has everything to do with the weight of pull difference not going from a single stage to a two stage trigger. This is even more apparent if I start out shooting my Remington.

[jmoore]

That makes your task rather easier, as you can adjust the let off weight of the standard two stage trigger/ sear assembly by following Peter Laidler's instructions from previous threads. I don't know if it's in his collection of articles or stickied links, but it's worth a look.

[bigduke6]

There is a small section regarding the trigger in " Target Rifle Shooting" by Magor EGB Reynolds and Robin Fulton page 64.

Like most here I,ve never had any probs with the trigger, but if anyone is looking at doing something like the one below with a canjar trigger then please dont do it to a nice original No4, as i,ve said in previous posts there are thousands of No4,s out there that were sporterized, drilled and tapped etc, and these can make excellent building blocks for project rifles.

I ve had this a long time and never got round to doing anything with it. Apart from the obvious you can see the limited striker travel when cocked and also the the work on the cocking piece.

[OxfordAndy]

I put one of the two-stage Huber's in my Miltech Mauser KAR98k as i was really struggling with the original trigger. It felt very inconsistent and i was never really sure when it was going to break, each shot seemed different and it was starting to induce flinch..

On that install, the gunsmith needed to remove a little wood in the trigger well to fit the trigger - not a major issue as it was not an original stock but it may not be something you'd want to do if you had a valuable, all original rifle?

This is the one I had put in:

http://www.huberconcepts.com/Mauser_...eplacement.htm

The trigger feels much more consistent than the original and has really helped improve the feel of the rifle, the confidence I have in it and the accuracy that I can achieve. On the first stage pull you can feel the internals working which I did find a little odd at first but once used to it - I like the trigger.

I have not had any problems with safety - my gunsmith would not have let the rifle out of his workshop if he wasn't 100% satisfied that the rifle was safe to use.

Would I put one in an Enfield?

To be honest, I've never had the kinds of issues with my Enfields that I had with the Mauser so the question has never arisen. But I'm glad I put it in the KAR98k

[Rumpelhardt]

Well I do think that when I get another remington 700 I'll try one of the Huber two stage triggers for that rifle. The X-Mark Pro crap Remington uses now is pure junk. The "unsafe" trigger that served faithfully for about 50 years was miles ahead.

[jmoore]

Now that I'm on a real computer, let's see if these links below will work for those that haven't searched out Captain Laidler's articles in the sticky area of the L-E forum header. ( Quite frankly, I just scan the "new posts" anymore and don't much utilize the specific forums.)

The Trigger Pull-Off - Part 1

The Trigger Pull-Off - Part 2