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    Corrects are either correct as CMPicon received them and are essentially a new or nearly so rifle. Parts should be as sent from the supplier at the Armory or HRA. All walnut stocks and metal perfect, generally.

    Collectors are correct and unmodified by CMP. The Collectors are genuinely original. Most are beyond belief with perfect metal and nearly perfect wood. They will be all walnut and with metal is like a new finish, but fromthe 1950s. These show up from time to time, but are sometimes so new that they come in their own boxes from the factory or Armory complete with powdery dessicant that was applied to prevent rust. They are higher even than regular collectors, some saying they went for $3K plus. There are even consecutively numbered pairs to be offered in their original packing. They expect $20K plus a pair of those, according to some on other boards.

    The Corrects are great rifles. Get one of those and look forward to years of great shooting. I have about six at present and would have more if I could get to Anniston again. I bought an almost new M1D last trip and my wife says no more for while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greystone45 View Post
    What are you getting with a "correct grade" and "collector grade". Are these WWII era with correct original barrels ect?
    The Service Grade Specials I have seen at the South Store have been late production (1955-56) rifles in the 5.4M, 5.79M &, I believe, 5.8M s/n range. Nothing from WWII.

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    The HRAs i got were 2 x 5.5, 3 x 5.6 and SAs 5 x 5.8 all in great and some in almost new cond. but 2 SAs had new CMPicon wood. To get WWII Garands I order Winchesters. (may be repeating myself here) but I did get two WWII SAs when I ordered service grade but one of those had the new wood I mentioned. Granted It is just the receiver and maybe 13 to 14 parts that are WWII. It is just luck of the draw with CMP but all good rifles so far.
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    IMHO.....just go with a "service grade or above" for a shooter.

    In the end: "It's YOUR money.....choose how YOU want to spend it."

    From an old post of mine.....


    When I get my new (old) CMPicon rifle..........I strip it down for a good cleaning and inspection. Bad parts are replaced and I lube it up (while reassembling it).

    This might help.......

    http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/garand/m1.htm

    Next, I take it to the range with some known good quality M2 ball ammo with known functioning clips (USGI is preferred) and do some slow and rapid fire. Your ammo and clips are very important when testing a new (old) rifle. Believe me........I have been fooled in the past.

    So then.........IF I have a problem (not related to SAFETY)......I'll note it or take immediate action on it.

    When I return home...........I remember to look up my "problem."

    http://m1-garand-rifle.com/garand-troubleshooting.php

    also

    http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/garand/tm9-1275.htm

    Sometimes I need to order parts..........so be it. Hey, the rifle has been sitting for maybe 50+ years. A new set of replacement springs might just be an easy fix.
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    If you can not get to the store, I would go with the SA or HRA Service grade Specials. There is no gambling with what you will get on these rifles. New Old Stock rifle with new manufactured walnut stock and stock metal.

    I ordered two SA SG Specials. Both had no wear that I could see.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamour View Post
    If you can not get to the store, I would go with the SA or HRA Service grade Specials. There is no gambling with what you will get on these rifles. New Old Stock rifle with new manufactured walnut stock and stock metal.

    I ordered two SA SG Specials. Both had no wear that I could see.

    Good luck
    These are stunning rifles. Best deal at CMPicon, IMO. If you can find a great USGI stock, it will equal a collector grade.

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    Recently, the CMPicon has been shipping a high % of Service Grades with garish "Orange" beech wood stocks. Check the CMP website for posts about these: M1 Garand - CMP Forums

    If I were ordering one, I'd specify "walnut" rather than "orange. While the Army used beech stocks in late production rifles, the color was golden or gold-red, not orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk View Post
    Recently, the CMPicon has been shipping a high % of Service Grades with garish "Orange" beech wood stocks. Check the CMP website for posts about these: M1 Garand - CMP Forums

    If I were ordering one, I'd specify "walnut" rather than "orange. While the Army used beech stocks in late production rifles, the color was golden or gold-red, not orange.
    A lot of guys have specified walnut, and still received birch.

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    You kept saying new walnut stocks but my CMPicon new stocks were the very light beech and try as a could can not get them darker. as you can see the metal is great (like brand new) but the wood is hideous. I did buy two very nice walnut stocks from James river manufacturing to replace two of the birch stocks that I tried staining and was not satisfied with the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk View Post
    The Service Grade Specials I have seen at the South Store have been late production (1955-56) rifles in the 5.4M, 5.79M &, I believe, 5.8M s/n range. Nothing from WWII.
    CMPicon has stated that any WW2 rifle in original, mint, correct condition--will go directly to auction. Way out of my price range. Look at what they're getting for the NOS post war M1s' with the VCI paper on the muzzles. As far as I've been able to find out, they haven't found any WW2 Garands like that yet. Check this post war rifle out:
    M-1 Garand SA Unissued SN- 5869677 Auction

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