After hunting with an Ithaca 37 for 50 years and never carrying a carbine in combat...I was an m16 guy....I'm not worried about placement of my finger when the fun starts...I'm in new mexico and coyotes are the meanest things I face....In the house I still use a mod 37 with a hastings barrel and # 8 shot...really makes a mess......Hole new term to lighting someone up...The spread at 9 feet is 11"....Three rounds of this and 2 rounds of #1 western buck will stop most conversations....No really, the carbine is a toy for me not a tool...I still like the tap on the button....If I drop a mag by gollie I will feel real stupid but no worst for wear.I have never used more than 6 rounds to stop a coyote .Charlie

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OK ....now where to buy the parts.....Charlie