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    I read that and it just didn't sink in for some reason. It may be a moot point as I think it maybe very hard to send the part out of the U.S.
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    Ok, here's what I have to work with...

    One thing that has puzzled me is the variation in size of the rear sight. Both the M1917 and Pattern 14 have the same length (approximately 54mm or I think about 2.1259 inches). There are no serial numbers on either sight so I am assuming that they are M1917 sights? On my other Pattern 14 manufactured by Remington however the rear sight measures 60mm or about 2.3621 inches. The serial number on that one matches the receiver so its the correct sight. I am assuming then that the difference in lengths would be due to the different ballistic performance of the 303 and 30-06 cartridges, i.e. a longer sight is needed for the less powerful 303.

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    Sorry to be a bit dense, but with that stock, why are you worrying about the letter stamped on the backsight?
    Of course, someone is going to come up with the "part of it's history argument", and that stock could be a prize exhibit in a Bubba museum.

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    The serial number on that one matches the receiver so its the correct sight. I am assuming then that the difference in lengths would be due to the different ballistic performance of the 303 and 30-06 cartridges, i.e. a longer sight is needed for the less powerful 303.
    Yessir! But unless you are firing original ammo (or ammo loaded to have the same exterior ballistics) it won't matter for practical shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    Yessir! But unless you are firing original ammo (or ammo loaded to have the same exterior ballistics) it won't matter for practical shooting. Patrick
    IF the sights are correctly regulated (which isn't likely w/o a fore end) then I have found Model of 1917 sights spot on for regular old milsurp (US and foreign) M2 ball out to 600 yards. If you are on a metric range, then it's not as useful.

    I have also found that these rifles shoot best with upwards fore end bedding pressure much like No.4 rifles. Short stocks give up a fair amount of accuracy, generally. (Don't rely on 100yd/m groups to tell, either!)

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