+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 23

Thread: Ammo belt

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member mattgunguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last On
    05-23-2023 @ 06:12 AM
    Location
    somo
    Posts
    97
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    06:14 PM

    Ammo belt

    for twenty buck at my favorite surplus store shop i didnt think i went wrong, but which pattern had the tabs to hold the clips in.



    thank you for any help
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Contributing Member gsimmons's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Last On
    Today @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Western North Carolina
    Posts
    1,368
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    07:14 PM
    It's an M1923 belt, for the 5 round clips

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    30,402
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:14 PM
    Yep, and it was green so it's probably Korea vintage if not later. It could be late WW2 but probably not. There should be a date somewhere on the back if it's not washed out. By the way, the little snap tabs are for one of the two five round clips not holding in the eight round M1icon clips...
    Regards, Jim

  6. #4
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    66
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    05:14 PM
    You did great for $20.

    Jim is correct. It's most likely Korean War vintage. Check carefully inside on the left and see if you can find the remnants of a date.

    Most early to mid WWII web gear was made in the lighter shade called OD#3 that looks more like 'khaki' and the late gear when to OD#7 that's often referred to as olive drab green.
    'Some' early gear was made in a darker shade too, so nothing is written in stone.
    Most of the darker WWII vintage seems to be a dark greenish brown but the late WWII gear became a dark green and continued that way through Korea.

    I just pulled out some of my gear recently and put a couple of sets together.

    The set on the left is the lighter shade and the set on the right is the darker shade. (The set on the right is mostly USMC gear)


    Here's a couple of detail photos of the inside with maker markings and dates



    The darker shade belt on the right


    This is another belt in the OD#3 -



    The 1923 belt was designed to hold 1903 or 1917 stripper clips two to a pouch with the strap separating them and a garand clip fit perfectly so they continued using the same design and manufacturing them.

    I didn't even realize these belts were the same manufacture until I just took these photos, but they were made by many companies and colors varied greatly.

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    30,402
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:14 PM
    Harlan, that just shows that they were making everything at once and no rhyme or reason. When it changed, they probably didn't even notice.
    Regards, Jim

  8. Thank You to browningautorifle For This Useful Post:


  9. #6
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    mac9990's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last On
    10-13-2013 @ 01:22 AM
    Posts
    11
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:14 PM
    I don't think any M1923 belts were made with the straps after WWII.

  10. #7
    Contributing Member gsimmons's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Last On
    Today @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Western North Carolina
    Posts
    1,368
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    07:14 PM
    The darker OD no.7 started to be used around 1943.

  11. Thank You to gsimmons For This Useful Post:


  12. #8
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    66
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    05:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Harlan, that just shows that they were making everything at once and no rhyme or reason. When it changed, they probably didn't even notice.
    You're exactly right Jim. They weren't concerned with having web gear that 'matched' perfectly in our collections 60 years later!

    I have a couple of pieces of web gear made using both the lighter khaki (OD3) and darker green (OD7) on the same item. They're known as 'transitional' by collectors implying they were made after the military decided they wanted things made in the darker green, and the makers were using up their supply of khaki. That's probably the case most often but I have a couple of 'transitional' items made very early. I think it just shows manufactures used whatever material they could acquire and hues probably changed often from different sources and from one batch to another.

  13. #9
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    66
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    05:14 PM
    This is an earlier design cover for the US e-tool (entrenching tool, or shovel) with transitional colors.
    The later design had three positions of hooks and all of them I've seen are solid OD7 green



  14. Thank You to Harlan (Deceased) For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    LimeyCarbineLover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last On
    07-23-2011 @ 02:38 PM
    Location
    Haverhill,Suffolk,UK
    Posts
    160
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    12:14 AM

    Oh !

    oh now you are talking my language...great web gear set ups guys....love the M1905 bayonet in the M1910 scabbard....and NICE 1st pattern M43 shovel cover in OD3 with type 1 hanger

    Kudos

    Regards

    Limey

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. M1 Garand Ammo/Pistol Belt Info Needed
    By bulldog_mack13 in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 05-17-2011, 08:50 PM
  2. Ammo belt for Carbine carriers?
    By JLJ in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 03-11-2011, 08:45 PM
  3. Belt fed!
    By Bill Hollinger in forum The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-27-2010, 02:05 AM
  4. Garand ammo belt question
    By paul v in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-25-2009, 06:00 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts