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[cgroc09]

got pics of the rifle. I would like to see them.

[mdrim13]

its completely broken down right now but if your ok with pictures of that i could gladely post them. I am in process of removing the black paint so it might be a bit dirty but that shouldnt be a problem!!

[Larry G.]

A June 1942 SA rifle has a few difficult parts to locate for a restoration, the most difficult is a Type 1 lock bar on the short pinion. Second would be an early SA EMcF stockAttachment 25000

Photo shows a Type 1 lock bar on a SA in the 613xxx serial number range

That M1 one looks familiar.

[mdrim13]

Hello All,

Finally have pictures taken to put up. As I mentioned before the rifle is completely apart at this point. I have just barely started the paint removal process so there is black gloss spray paint on all parts. I took pictures of all parts that had numbers or that I thought had any signifigence. If more are needed I could gladely take them. Something I noticed while taking pictures is that the numbers on the bolt, reciever and trigger group are all close, within four numbers in fact. I do not know if this is important or holds any meaning but thats why Im asking you guys. The stock only had one marking that I saw and that was a small "P" in a box on the pistol grip, otherwise nothing. One photo shows the handguards and muzzle break as well as the front sight in the gun. I believe it looks as though someone tried to make a National Match knock off? The cleaning kit and rod were not in the but stock but there was what looks to be a front sight...weird? I included three pictures of it as well in case anyone cares to let me know what it was for.

Any information you might be able to provide would be great and much appriciated as I am new at this whole garand thing. Thanks in advance!!

mdrim13

Also: Not pictured is the hammer. It is marked C46008-2 SA

Front Receiver Marking is not very clear in photo. Also there is an upside-down 8 stamped right in front of the pin hole at the very front of the receiver, it is not visible in any pictures. Front Receiver is marked:

C 19 A
D 28291-17

[browningautorifle]

Now yer loggin! You got partly lucky with the grooved lower handguard clip still being there. Too bad about the front sight, it still has the seal. Someone cut the ears off. You can probably get an original gas cylinder lock, I have a spare Winchester for instance. There are others here. You need a gas cylinder lock with the round top. Loose the muzzle break. You need a new front sight too. The numbers on the parts are drawing numbers and revision numbers and are an indication of age. When the part was made. You might check for a round firing pin as the early ones had them. I don't know if they were gone by this year. If it's round it should be changed to half round which is standard.

This could be done! Just a bit of time and shake these guys down for the extra parts. The hardest might be the wood with cartouches. Now just some acetone and varsol and the paint will be gone. The reason I say acetone is it won't attack the parkerizing but the paint will come off with a toothbrush. Or two. It will eat them. It doesn't matter if it shows some wear. It will be back to the way it was meant to look.

[mdrim13]

Thanks for the interest jim. I have to ask though...any ideas on the vakue of the rifle as it sits? I will never sell it as I have always wanted one and have waited 6 years for the right one to come along. Just a ball park would be nice and the a possible value if restored?

[browningautorifle]

I'm in Canada so I can't say if you're in the US. There's lots of guys that will ballpark you though. It makes a difference whether it's restored or just under way. Right now it's not much more than shooter value. A bit more though. Just give it time and the value will come out. Once you're done. Keep un infoed on the progress. With pics.

[RCS]

The early round firing pin was replaced by the later firing pin during Dec '41 -Jan '42 in SA rifles. On your gas cylinder, difficult to tell by the photos, is the back ring round and is there a bevel on the bayonet lug ? Stock with a P in a box is post WW2 but the stock could be from another rifle. You would need the Type 1 lock bar but the Type 2 would be a correct replacement.
SA rifles from 1942 are difficult to find and yours is not that hard to complete in time.

[mdrim13]

Hello All,

***I have already posted about this rifle in a different thread***

I have recently purchased my first M1 Garand. It is a SA production and according to the charts the receiver was made in June of 1942 and dated 6-42 on the bbl. All major parts are marked SA. The downside is that someone has played with it...Maybe his name was bubba? The whole thing was painted black with gloss black oil based spray paint. Right now the rifle is completely broken down as I am cleaning off the paint. I did not take pictures of the rifle before disassembely so all pictures are of the individual parts. Bubba also replaced both handguards with laminated handguards. There was a muzzle break installed as well. The front sight was also replaced with a "NM .062" sight. From what I can tell and have been told I am missing the correct gas plug, gas cylinder lock, correct front sight, correct type 1 lock bar for the rear sight and the stock of course. Are the parts I listed truly what I need? Anything else? I would like to restore this gun to the correct configuration. Anyone have these parts or know who might?

Thanks to All,

mdrim13

Notes:

Not pictured is the hammer. It is marked C46008-2 SA

Front Receiver Marking is not very clear in photo. Also there is an upside-down 8 stamped right in front of the pin hole at the very front of the receiver, it is not visible in any pictures. Front Receiver is marked:
C 19 A
D 28291-17

[ShaveTail]

A few things jump out at me:

1.) -3 un-cut (post-war modification) op rod. A pretty expensive item by itself! If it is a curve-side (the lug by the handle) then it is correct for your rifle.
2.) -12 bolt is correct without getting into the heat-lot code craziness.
3.) -5 Trigger Housing is correct.
4.) -2 Hammer is correct
5.) -6 safety is a bit early (should be -9) but may well be original, as parts sat around for awhile.
6.) Milled trigger guard is correct
7.) As mentioned, grooved handguard clip is correct
8.) Lock bar is later, but again probably something that has been with her for a very long time and, given the going rates on Type 1 lock bars and flush nut sights these days, probably the closest you would be able to realistically get anyway.

I'd personally think about at least keeping the front sight around since it still has the seal over the screw. Also hard to come by!

All around a damn nice rifle! I THINK the stock is probably a US arsenal replacement stock from the 60s, maybe stained birch. Finding the correct stock will be a right proper bitch (SA/GHS with small ordinance wheel). Not impossible, but it won't be cheap or easy to find. Probably around $400 for a nice one.

Once you get the paint off and replace the gas cylinder lock to get rid of the muzzle break (~$25), I would guess a market value of around $700-1000 as it sits if sold in the right place (like the CMP Forum). That range is big because of three things that we don't yet know: 1.) is there an import mark on the barrel? 2.) What's the muzzle wear like? 3.) How does the chamber look with the paint removed? If the parkerizing is original and looks good with the paint off you could probably add $100 to both prices.

Just my thoughts.