Not a milsurp Ross, but a nice C&R anyways. Commercial M 10

[Hal O'Peridol]

Got this one from online auction. Don't have rifle yet, but looks pretty nice. Always wanted a .280 Ross to go with my other ones.

I also have a MkII* target rifle, and a M1905 service rifle that someone trimmed the foreend a bit.

Here are pics from the auction.

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[smellie]

Verily, Sir, I lust!

You can make brass for this out of .300 H&H if you're as cheap as I am.

Funny, the books all say to use a .287 slug but the only one of these I have ever encountered is on a round of .28 Ross experimental ammo. Every .280 round I have (including a full box of King's Norton made for Gibbs) has a .283 - .284 slug.

I would think a flatbase .284 should obturate okay with a quick powder.

Beautiful rifle.

Moose for dinner?
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BTW Hal, you should meet my new girlfriend. Her name is Stella Zeen!

[Surpmil]

Nice, but then I never met one I didn't like.

[Hal O'Peridol]

Should be on the way, hopefully will get here Friday. I guess some collectors will turn their nose up at any modified Ross, including those like mine....with a recoil pad. Since I can't afford the 1500 bux for an "unmolested" version, I will be perfectly happy with the one I bought and take it out shooting. Should be quite the experience. I plan on loading mostly to 7x57 levels to cut down on barrel wear.

[smellie]

Ross used a somewhat unusual rifling profile which was specially developed for the ultra-high pressures of the .280.

According to their advertising, it would outlast an ordinary barrel about 3 or 4 to 1.

7x57 performance is very mild for this rifle. It will take more powder to do the same job as with a 7x57,a condition caused by that massive casing.

Most important of all: do have fun!
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[wiley-14]

Buffalo Arms sells a 287 jacketed bullet in a couple of different weignts, and brass, too.

[Hal O'Peridol]

Rifle's here!

Some pics:

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M10 on bottom, recent 1905 purchase on top.

[Hal O'Peridol]

Also have a full box of these.

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[buffdog]

Also have a full box of these.

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This is a very interesting box of ammunition. In 1868, the U.S. Cartridge Company was formed in Lowell, Mass., by a group of Investors in Benjamin F. Butler, a former Brigader General of the Union Army in the U.S. Civil War.

In 1911, the National Lead Company bought a half interest in the Company, and in 1919, they bought the remaining half of the Company. At the beginning of WWI, British Agents approached the Company to make ammunition for the British forces. The Contract specified that full payment would be made in the event that the War did not last before it's fulfilment.

In 1926, Winchester purchased the U.S. Cartridge Company, but had to move it because the lease on the buildings was not going to be renewed. This required several train loads to transport the machinery and other items.

It would seem probable that the earliest this .280 Ross ammunition was produced was 1919 and the latest 1926, a relatively short period of time. It is interesting to see that the original price was $1.90 and a later sticker is for $45.00. At $45.00, this is $2.25 a round, but it is probably worth several times that today to Ammunition Collectors. The box itself should be worth a good amount.

Nice find.

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[Hal O'Peridol]

So you're say I probably should not shoot this? Bought the box full for 30 bux US.