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    Damaged Garand receiver

    I have a very used Garandicon receiver SN 2435XXX

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    Its hard to explain but part of the op rod track appears to be bent, Towards the end where the locking area for the bolt lugs are it appears to be bent in/up.

    I'm sorry If I'm not explaining it well however, My other 2 receivers will freely slide the bolt all the way into lock (without a barrrel) This one the bolt moves into the red area refuses to move forward, the rest of the receiver appears to be within spec.

    Is there anything I can do to salvage this? (Bend it back)?

    I'm aware this area is under 50K psi when a round is going off.

    Thank you.

    Any idea what could of caused this?
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    first check should be with magna flux



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    pictures would help

    if the bolt will not close on a stripped receiver - there is something very wrong - the cost to correct would exceed the cost to replace

    receivers are cheep - body parts are not

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    RMIRECSAB - M1 Garand stripped receiver, SA (Springfield Armory) manufacture, recently refinished and parkerized, some minor pitting may be present both above and below the wood line. Caliber, manufacturer and serial number on heel

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    Olds, can you post a picture without the coloring and larger?
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    You may have a receiver that has been created by welding a front half & rear half together. This was commonly done in the 1950s when few Garands were sold to the public - except as scrap halves from demilled receivers. I'd have a gunsmith knowledgeable about Garands check the receiver. Inspect the receiver, inside & out about mid length for any change in the milling marks, changes in dimensions (your op rod track sounds like that), for voids, bobbles, seams, changes in color, etc. Also, check the serial number of the receiver with the number on the right front leg of the receiver. They are chronological and should match. There is a website that lists these drawing numbers but I can not locate it right now - perhaps another forum member will post it. When receiver halves were welded together, the welders seldom tried to match halves; it is common, for example, a Springfield rear half to be welded to a H&R front half or a 1941 rear half welded to a 1951 front half. I hope this is not the case and that there is an easy way to resolve your problem. Can you post close up pictures of your receiver?

    Fulton Armory lists some tips for spotting a welded receiver http://fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs%5CM1G-FAQs%5CWeld.htm
    Here is a recent thread from the CMPicon website Shoot a reweld? - CMP Forums
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    I apologize the quality is not very good, I have 2 other receivers in overall much nicer shape (they spec much better as well) I didn't notice this up until I was getting ready to assemble it.

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    ImageShack - Online Photo and Video Hosting bolt will not go lower, i wont try force.
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    After using the calipers it looks like the last 3/8 of the area in question is about .10-.15 thousands too high. In person its much easier to tell something is wrong with that corner.
    I appreciate the input.

    Damaged Mess

    S/A 2435XXX
    0 56 GG
    D 28291 32

    Other two. Just curious.


    S/A 2447XXX
    A 5? A
    D28291 32

    S/A 5971XXX
    Z13B
    F6528291
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    Need to turn the macro setting on. It is normally indicated by a flower. Get in a well lighted area and turn the flash off.
    This is a 7th round modified gas trap receiver off a Federal Ordnance import. Taken under normal room light with macro setting on.


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    First two still have flash..

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    Looks like there is even a decent crack in the locking area in question.

    It appears I may make an m1 lamp out of this one.

    Thanks
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    Please don't think me ignorant, but I haven't seen a receiver in that rough shape for a while. I wouldn't use it for anything but a paper weight. I think if you had it examined professionally you would find a long list of deficiencies. It may actually be twisted from a poorbarrel removal. They aren't that expensive so getting another won't be bad. Or do you even need to use that one? I think the lamp is probably a good idea.
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    I'm seeing a dip in the top of the channel right about where you say the Op Rod is catching.

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    I see a crack in the radius where the bolt lug locks into the receiver.
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