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.22 RF Trainers with a question and lots of pics
Last edited by No4Mk1(T); 09-19-2011 at 02:43 PM.
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09-19-2011 02:36 PM
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A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.
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PrinzEugen
A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.
Does it have a date on the barrel near the Knox form?
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Your rifle appears to made / converted from a Charger Loading Lee Metford Rifle MKII, which in turn had been converted from a Magazine Lee Metford MkII rifle as it does not appear to have a safety catch. As the conversion to "Charger Loader" was done after the introduction of the MkIII SMLE (Skennerton) it may be safe to assume, a dangerous thing to do!!, that your rifle was made some time after this date.
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Originally Posted by
PrinzEugen
A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.
Have a look at my friends Website: http://rifleman.org.uk/Enfield_Rifle_Long_Lee_22RF.htm its agood place to start
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Thanks for the suggestions chaps - not had the woodwork off as yet, but there are no visible year markings. Yes I had come to similar conclusions having previously read that rifleman article - probably in the 1912-14 period. The thing I wondered about was the article's talk about 'conversion' whereas mine seems to have been made as a commercially available .22 - it's got the BSA Co mark on the right side of the butt socket. I just wondered if that might put it in a different time period possibly ie made to order a bit later???
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The MLE (Long - Mark I*) and later the CLLE (Territorial service pattern) were offered by BSA for target shooting until the start of the first world war.
Both were offered with a choice of bolt safety or not and metford or enfield rifling - also with 300 mid-range, 297/230 or 22lr barrels.
Those produced to the CCLE pattern from new seemed to have SMLE features such as buttplate, rear sling swivel and threaded reinforcing rod.
Yours seems to follow that pattern although it does not have the windage adjustable sights - so maybe 1909 best guess.
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Absolutely gorgeous. Everyone is on my WANT list still.
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Mk II or Mk 1
From the literature I've been reading, the general consensus is the N9 .22 Navy trainer was made from No. 4 Mk 2 actions.
The N9 here, and the one I own, are on Mk 1 actions. A friend's N9 is on a Mk 2 action.
What gives?
It appears they were made with what they had on hand or could scrounge.
Mr. Ladler, might you have any insight into this apparent discrepancy?
(ha, discrepancies with LE's. Who'd a thought it.)
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