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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
    Johnny, what makes you think that its post ww1 commercial? Serial number or the markings or what?
    The serial number with letter suffix and better pictures would help determine exactly what it is.

    In Jan Still's book "Weimar Lugers", he clears up some of the confusion on the "1920 Commercial" and "1923 Commercial". The 1923 Commercial was actually a continuation of the serial number range used prior to WWI, and continued with the resumption of production following WWI, and was produced from about 1919 to 1921. When the commercial serial numbers reached the 92000 range, the method of serial numbering the commercials changed to the military style with a letter suffix. In 1921 the serial numbers began in the 2000i serial number range, and was given the 1920 Commercial name by collectors. The i letter suffix was applied just as if the letter suffix had been used from the beginning of commercial production in 1900 (1 - 9999 no suffix, 1 - 9999a, 1 - 9999b and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge13 View Post
    Those 2 gunsmiths sure don't know anything about Lugers.
    Your pistol is a 1920 commercial. These were made in both 9mm & 7.65 (30 Luger) I'm surprised it does not have Germanyicon stamped on the left side.
    Looks like it has had a lot of use over the years.
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    The first one admitted he did not know much about them. He was the gunsmith at the range. He might have even said it was the first one he'd seen. Though my memory is fuzzy, we might have been talking about the stoeger luger .22 when he said that which wasn't firing reliably. The second one was a fan of military arms and knew enough that he told me it could be fired without the frame, and he said he thought it was probably a pre-war export. But he still couldn't say for sure what caliber it was. It does have Germany stamped on the right side. Its not clear in that picture, but if you know where to look you can tell something is stamped there. Why is that important, and what would it mean if it were stamped on the left as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Peppers View Post
    The serial number with letter suffix and better pictures would help determine exactly what it is.

    In Jan Still's book "Weimar Lugers", he clears up some of the confusion on the "1920 Commercial" and "1923 Commercial". The 1923 Commercial was actually a continuation of the serial number range used prior to WWI, and continued with the resumption of production following WWI, and was produced from about 1919 to 1921. When the commercial serial numbers reached the 92000 range, the method of serial numbering the commercials changed to the military style with a letter suffix. In 1921 the serial numbers began in the 2000i serial number range, and was given the 1920 Commercial name by collectors. The i letter suffix was applied just as if the letter suffix had been used from the beginning of commercial production in 1900 (1 - 9999 no suffix, 1 - 9999a, 1 - 9999b and so on.
    I'd be happy to give better pictures, what exactly do you want to see? I don't see any letters in the serial number. One thing I'm wondering about is the 53 on top of the gun. It looks kinda like 55 in that picture, but that's because of the flash and the fancy font I think. But does the buggared up 5 indicate anything is amiss?
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    The better picture of the right side shows the GERMANY export mark, and another of the front of the receiver showing the serial number location would help. If it has a letter suffix, the letter will not be in the serial number, but under it.

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