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What is it and what's it worth
Last edited by Harlan (Deceased); 06-21-2011 at 12:16 AM.
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06-20-2011 09:59 PM
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I would say type 26 but I believe they have a swing out cylinder. Looks like a Japanese copy of a Webley. The characters just below the makers mark should be the type but I can't make heads or tails of them. That was'nt much help was it?
Last edited by vintage hunter; 06-20-2011 at 11:16 PM.
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Huh, so it is a type 26. Thats why I don't have much faith in books, the one I was looking in described the 26 as having a swing out cylinder like a S&W, the swing open lock mechanism of the French Lebel and the overall appearance of the Nagant, not a very accurate discription. This pistol looks more like a cross between the Webley and a Nagant to me. Thanks for the cyphering lesson Patrick, I was'nt that far off after all, the ''2x10'' part is what had me buffalo'd. I was addin' instead of multiplying.
Last edited by vintage hunter; 06-21-2011 at 12:07 AM.
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Yup, Type 26. One thing that will affect value that isn't pictured is whether the tip of the firing pin has been shortened enough the it will no longer reach the primer. Don't know why, but it's fairly common to see them with the tip cut. Nicely made, and the holster surely will help the price.
I could make a SWAG at the price, but the best way would be to search completed auctions on the various gun selling sites. I'm not registered with any, so I can't do it myself.
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Beth sent two new photos she took of another pistol her father left her. She wants to sell it too, and she'll probably take it to a gun shop near where she lives.
(She didn't ask me to try to figure a value, but I suspect she may have wanted to know if i could find anything)
Since I already started bothering you guys, and you are some of the most knowledgeable about 'fringe' firearms as well as everything else others don't know much about anyway I'll just add it here as a long shot.
She said there's some notes that say it's a 'Colt 22 Open Top Revolver' and it belonged her great grandfather.
For what it's worth, Beth is a very nice lady I 'met' from ebay just by chance. She served in the US Air Force and she's selling all of her dad's stuff now. I was concerned about her selling the things her father left her, but she really does want to sell everything.
I know most .22's hold little value but has anyone here seen this? One chance out of 1000 any old gun has collector value, but if this one does it would be nice to know.
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jmoore
Yup, Type 26. One thing that will affect value that isn't pictured is whether the tip of the firing pin has been shortened enough the it will no longer reach the primer. Don't know why, but it's fairly common to see them with the tip cut. Nicely made, and the holster surely will help the price.
I could make a SWAG at the price, but the best way would be to search completed auctions on the various gun selling sites. I'm not registered with any, so I can't do it myself.
Tip of the firing pin jmoore?
I spent two days and God knows how many emails to teach her how to take photos using the digital camera someone gave her years ago!
Last edited by Harlan (Deceased); 06-21-2011 at 01:48 AM.
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Well, you won't need a photo. Tip the cylinder and barrel assembly up and then pull the trigger. Whilst holding the trigger in the full rearward position (easing the hammer down might be too complicated to instruct remotely, and one "dry fire" ought not be catastrophic), check to see if the pin protrudes through the breech face. If so, no dramas!
The ones I've seen with the f.p. tip shortened have been ground off to a flat face, but still have some pin remaining.
Oddly, these "modded" examples have also been in the best condition of all the Type 26s seen. Which is probably why I don't have one. If original finish, the hammer and trigger have been in their original tempered color, ranging from "purple" to "straw". Unless there's some variations, but I'm not "knowed up" all that well on the details of these revolvers: they just don't turn up all that frequently!
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The Colt's interesting! Don't remember when I saw one last-not hugely uncommon, though, IIRC. That one ought to be fairly easy to pin down, though. Flayderman's book will have it, and likely the Blue Book of Gun Values by um, excuse the mangling, "Fishhead". But being Colt, and old, somebody will collect them.
Unless it's in better shape than it looks it may not realize book values as run of the mill antiques like that seem "soft" in price.
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Sarco has a nice Colt open top for US$450 so... less than that, I reckon.
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If she has not sold the Japanese pistol yet ans is willing to part with the photo and paperwork I would encourage her to sell it all together to preserve the history behind the Item. I would think this would add to the value. I certainly would to me. Nice gesture to help her.
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Harlan, Value retail would be about the $400 range and the one she has is about average condition from what I have seen. The holster is worth almost as much as the pistol if in very good conditionn plus the lanyard adds to the value. I would hazard a guess as to about $500 wholesale on the package. Funny thing is you can get ammo for it. I think Graf and Sons has it or they used to.
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