1941 Long Branch

[jmoore]

Ah, but is "correct" actually correct? The MkI foresight protector, hinged band and all that which we tend to associate with the MkI rifles probably were long gone before the MkI* mod. was introduced.

Well, it all depends on thae actual S/N, yes? Way early "0L" ought to have those features, whilst a later one might not, it just depends! Spinecracker's example had an early style fore stock, which won't be easy, just for starters.

I'd rather wait and spend more for a nicer one than get frustrated by something that just "ain't right". I've done without this long!

Things like this are highly subjective- what one buyer will pay depends on to many things to give a set price. Even a mood swing can change the "value" 2-300 $ overnight!

[Badger]

Looks like I am going to have to dig my 1942 Longbranch out of the safe and look to see what I actually have compared to the posts here.....chris3

For comparison and with thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, you could check the Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

A rare 1941 No.4 Mk1 Long Branch Rifle (click here) .....

Complete with a 150 picture photo montage, this is a fascinating rifle to study its markings and components in detail, with some interesting oddities and variations from the standard No.4 Mk1* noted in the "Collector's Feedback and Comments" section of the main Knowledge Library entry. There's also information with pictured examples of how to check for a correct front waisted sight protector, versus a home made, or possible fake.

(Click PIC to Enlarge)

Regards,
Badger

[spinecracker]

Thanks for that, Badger - I think I almost have that Knowledge Library article memorized now lol

Another question (will he ever stop???) - how rare are the early Long Branch-stamped button-style cocking pieces? Are we in rocking horse poo territory again? I might be needing one in the near future for a different project.

[spinecracker]

How about this one for a silly question...when Long Branch and Savage were starting up production of the No.4 Mk.1, were they supplied with parts from English manufacturers to help them fill production quotas? I guess I am asking if all 1941 Long Branches or Savages would have had all Long Branch- or Savage-marked parts, or if there was some mixing-and-matching going on even then.

[madcratebuilder]

Savage-Stevens and Long Branch did exchange parts to keep production moving. The two locations are geographically close.

[spinecracker]

Thanks Madcrate. I was aware of the Long Branch-Savage connection, but I didn't know if there was a Long Branch/Savage connection with the UK for parts. It is just one of the silly questions that pop into my brain and won't let go until I get an answer lol. I know that initial production at both Long Branch and Savage was slow (ironing out all the creases, as it were), but I don't know if the UK shipped them parts to help speed things up.

[AX201201]

How about "CCM" on the upper front lumber metal bit ?

[spinecracker]

How about "CCM" on the upper front lumber metal bit ?

CCM = Canadian Cycle and Motor

They made parts for Long Branch.

[AX201201]

Perhaps the correct "early" foresight protector is the waist-ed style, with LB and C broad arrow?

The LB stamped front sight showing inch measurement, a CCM nose cap under a LB marked and acceptance stamped hinged band. All this and many more "correct" defining characteristics on an unissued, pristine 1941 rifle. It does not get too much better, IMHO. Perhaps an EX in the white?

[spinecracker]

Perhaps the correct "early" foresight protector is the waist-ed style, with LB and C broad arrow?

The LB stamped front sight showing inch measurement, a CCM nose cap under a LB marked and acceptance stamped hinged band. All and many more on an unissued 1941 rifle with unmodified bolt head release mechanism.

Please excuse me while I drool...and get a bucket and napkins...

Does that rifle belong to you, AX201201? If so, then more photos, please.