No4MkI/2(T)

[bearhunter]

I have what I believe to be n Indian No4 MkI/2 T.
It has the Ishy screw in the forestock in front of the receiver and the thin black paint on all metal parts.
The scope is a TEL STG No 32 Mk I, HBM Co. OS. 466 A, which is correct as the first batch of scopes sold to the Indians were the Mk I type.
The receiver is marked, M47 1943 and serial number, which matches the bolt and forestock. The number on the buttstock doesn't match anything. The butt also has a circle stamped on it with 506 \l/ 5-74
The butt also has a repair that is very much Indian as it has a slight upward curve.
The cheekpiece and front upper fore stock have been replaced with some sort of Indian wood and the whole stock has been rough sanded to reduce glare.
The barrel has also been replaced and has the bayonet lugs intact, which I've been told by a collector in the states is common on these rifles.
The scope mount upper rings are stamped with numbers to mate to front and rear and has a reinforceing bar welded on the back side, which I'm told is also correct for this rifle.
The scope has been arsenal refurbed and is sharp and clear, all of the adjustments are smooth and respond properly.
It came with a battered but proper sling, transit chest and scope can as well as a small desicant bag.

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[Lee Enfield]

I have what I believe to be n Indian No4 MkI/2 T.
It has the Ishy screw in the forestock in front of the receiver and the thin black paint on all metal parts.
The scope is a TEL STG No 32 Mk I, HBM Co. OS. 466 A, which is correct as the first batch of scopes sold to the Indians were the Mk I type.
The receiver is marked, M47 1943 and serial number, which matches the bolt and forestock. The number on the buttstock doesn't match anything. The butt also has a circle stamped on it with 506 \l/ 5-74
The butt also has a repair that is very much Indian as it has a slight upward curve.
The cheekpiece and front upper fore stock have been replaced with some sort of Indian wood and the whole stock has been rough sanded to reduce glare.
The barrel has also been replaced and has the bayonet lugs intact, which I've been told by a collector in the states is common on these rifles.
The scope mount upper rings are stamped with numbers to mate to front and rear and has a reinforceing bar welded on the back side, which I'm told is also correct for this rifle.
The scope has been arsenal refurbed and is sharp and clear, all of the adjustments are smooth and respond properly.
It came with a battered but proper sling, transit chest and scope can as well as a small desicant bag.

bearhunter

On an Indian FTRed rifle the serials are generally removed and a new serial added to the right side of the receiver ring. On a No4T this serial would end with a T.
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-32.jpg

That doesn't mean that your rifle wasn't Indian owned.

Are you sure the rifle is a No4Mk1/2? Is the trigger hung off the guard or the butt socket?

- a 1943 dated BSA SHOULD have a No32MkI scope

- is the serial number on the forend stamped around the stock or along it?

- the number visable on the butt stock should be the scope serial. The rifle serial would be invisible on the shelf inside the butt socket.

- why do you say the barrel has been replaced? A BSA No4T barrel should be serialed.

- Can you photo the "added" "reinforcing bar" on the back of the scope mount? There is a molded reinforce on the back of the scope mounts, but you say there is an added 1

-Are there any FR or FTR markings on your scope? Usually they would be on the turret body.

-What markings are on your desicant bag?

[Cantom]

[QUOTE=Lee Enfield;2153]On an Indian FTRed rifle the serials are generally removed and a new serial added to the right side of the receiver ring.

My 42 Long Branch had the LB s/n scrubbed and another stamped below it. Is that a sign of Indian FTR? You mentioned the right side of the receiver ring...Or what? There's also that lovely black paint...

[Warren]

Nice Long Branch safety lever.....

[Warren]

This is an Indian No.4 Mk.1 (T)....lots of irregularities from the "normal"[IMG][/IMG]

[Warren]

I'll do up a photo essay on it when I get a chance.

[Claven2]

Cantom: I wouldn't call it "normal", but certainly not an uncommon practice on Indian refurbs to reserialize them. Kind of an "anything goes" sort of rule.

[bearhunter]

Lee Enfield, sorry for the late reply,

The rifle looks very much like Wheatys', except the scope is a Mk1. Like Wheatys', the scope mount caps are held in place by allen head screws. There aren't any Indian marks on the rifle other than the reinforceing screw. The serial# on the butt stock doesn't match the scope, the serial # on the forestock matches the receiver and is stamped around the stock. There are no markings on the dessicant bag at all, the scope box is painted green and has the number painted on it by hand in white and matches the rifle serial #. There are no FTR markings or any other markings other than range drum markings and on the barrel mfg and serial number markings. Finally, the bbl has bayonet lugs. I haven't taken the rifle down, as everything is covered in that thin black paint that is found on Indian rifles. The receiver flat is hand stamped No 4 MK 1/2 T. The pads and screws are all covered in the same thin black ink. Oh yes, the bolt # matches the receiver. I will take some photos as soon as time provides and if you send me your email address will get them to you. bearhunter