UPS New Policy on Shipping Guns

[bulldog_mack13]

Went to UPS today to send out a rifle , they now require the shipper or person receaving the rifle to have a license in hand to ship it.

Must have changed in the last month I sent one out. I didnt know if you guys heard, Jay

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[viking guy]

Shipping any rifle across state lines requires a FFL on both ends. The sender and receiver must have Federal licenses. A private individual without a FFL shipping to an FFL in another state is breaking federal law.

[jmoore]

Nope. FFL on receiving end only, unless handgun.

[jonnyc]

No, pretty sure only the receiver, for any firearm, needs to have an FFL. That is probably only a local UPS myth. They never seem to know their own regs.

[AmEngRifles]

This is an example of ATF administratively changing the rules on something they don't have in direct law. It is legal to NOT posses an ffl for shipping out to an ffl in another state, BUT the receiver in the final arrival state must be an ffl. Problem is ATF has been scaring ffl's into believing they should NOT accept shipments from anybody but another ffl. Time for somebody to step up and set them straight. Problem is, it will take a BIG player to do that.

[Sarge]

A firearm can be shipped by an individual to an FFL.
IF sent for repair the FFL can then ship it back to the individual when finished.
On a sale the receiving end must be an FFL, but can be shipped by the selling individual.
Sarge

[B & B ARSENAL]

Try and file a claim if the firearm is damaged. They will not honor the claim even if insurance is bought if the sender doesn't have a FFL license. Happened to me.

[Amsdorf]

A firearm can be shipped by an individual to an FFL.
IF sent for repair the FFL can then ship it back to the individual when finished.
On a sale the receiving end must be an FFL, but can be shipped by the selling individual.
Sarge

Couple things though...prepare to be shocked at the price you'll pay, if you are not an FFL. You have to use overnight shipping. And...that is HUGELY expensive.

I got burned in my first gun sale on this and my shipping was well over $50.

Might be cheaper to pay your FFL to do it for you. He can use USPS. You can not.

[Sarge]

How did they avoid paying a legit claim on an item that was shipped in accordance with their rules???

UPS requires next day air, around $25, on hand guns - Not on long guns.
Sarge

[tylerjames]

I drove an hour to ship a rifle C&R to another C&R but had it packaged in a cardboard rifle shipping box per my research on their website. When I got there I was told they require all rifles to be shipped in plastic cases. I tried to point out that the box I had was stronger that a cheap plastic case ( it was very thick and thick foam ) and that I had purchased the box from specifically for this purpose. I also pointed out their website said nothing about plastic. They agreed about the website but said the manager at this depot wanted plastic to eliminate potential insurance claims. I then threw out that it was about an hour one way to this depot for me so after a few calls they agreed to ship in my cardboard this one time. I do not think anyone else will ship guns unless it is recall . I also had to have a copy of my C&R and the C&R on the other end which they made copies of and filed in some note book.
I has a recall on my walther PPKs they sent a shipping label and called ups to do the pick up. When the driver arrived to pick it up I told him I was shipping my gun back for a recall he refused to take it until he called his supervisor. It is almost like guns are radioactive or that they will go off by themselves even when in a sealed box with no ammo. I am done selling guns except face to face or pickup only.