Here's what I found checking out the band spring and the SA stock: The new band spring and the old one were nearly identical in all critical dimensions, except the lug of the old one looked slightly rounded. I decided to go with the new one. The hole didn't look that bad, but wasn't as tight as one in an old Robert Irwin stock. I thought the hole must be at an angle, so inserted an 1/8" welding rod - could immediately see the problem. The pictures taken on the counter top and with the square, show the difference. The one with the straight hole is the Robert Irwin stock. I measured the distance from the welding rod to the place where the band goes and found the hole about .05" off - close to 1/16" forward of where it should be. I decided there wasn't an easy fix, so put a piece of a flat wooden toothpick at the front edge of the hole before installing the new band spring. It's not fixed right, but a little better than it was. The last picture is for Jim - it's my "shootin' chair" taken last January when there wasn't any ice for it to slide around on! - Bob