+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Making a bolt cut-out for a 1903A4

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member Roy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2023 @ 04:09 AM
    Location
    NZ/Ocean
    Posts
    352
    Real Name
    Roy
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    10:25 PM

    Making a bolt cut-out for a 1903A4

    Has any one here made using a router, the bolt cut-out in the stock for a faux 03A4? I think I will have to adjust the angle to suit the bolt which I have which is a surprisingly good one made by a gunsmith, good enough that I havent tried to get a real one.

    Would anyone be able to give me the dimensions and perhaps a few nice photos of the cut?

    I expect it will take alot of setting up with jigs and the like for the two cuts, but I would like to get the cut as good looking as possible and not to wreck the stock.

    With Thanks

    Roy
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2024 @ 06:10 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    61
    Posts
    3,156
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    08:25 PM
    i offer this service, its not as easy as you think to make the cut look right.
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Legacy Member Roy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2023 @ 04:09 AM
    Location
    NZ/Ocean
    Posts
    352
    Real Name
    Roy
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    10:25 PM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks Chuck,

    I would gladly have you do it however, the stock is in New Zealandicon. It will never be a perfect clone A4 but is what I have been able to put together from what I have been able to source here and what I have been able to import.

    I am a boatbuilder by trade and am confident about using a router to make the cut.

    Thanks


    Roy

  6. #4
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2024 @ 06:10 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    61
    Posts
    3,156
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    08:25 PM
    Attachment 30091put those power tools away..i do mine by hand
    a draw file, and a drimel tool with a round bit,,take your time.
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  7. #5
    Legacy Member Roy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2023 @ 04:09 AM
    Location
    NZ/Ocean
    Posts
    352
    Real Name
    Roy
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    10:25 PM
    Thread Starter
    Nice

    Is the rounded cut, curved inward to take the curve in the bolt handle near to the ball. If so then yes that would be a bit too tricky with a router

    What clearance around the bolt handle was standard and what width is it? with that I think I could turn out a good cut fitted to the bolt I have

    Thanks


    Roy

  8. #6
    Advisory Panel
    JGaynor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    06-04-2024 @ 12:24 AM
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    888
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    10:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Nice

    Is the rounded cut, curved inward to take the curve in the bolt handle near to the ball. If so then yes that would be a bit too tricky with a router

    What clearance around the bolt handle was standard and what width is it? with that I think I could turn out a good cut fitted to the bolt I have

    Thanks


    Roy
    Roy fit of the bolt handle notch was fairly tight I would suggest no more than a few millimeters of clearance on either side of the handle.
    The cuts should be parallel and do your best when finishing to avoid rounding off the edges. On original rifles, even well worn pieces. the edges of the bolt cut remain sharp.
    Likewise the bottom edge of the cut should be even and rounded.

    You might be able to get a good start by clamping the workpiece in a jig and making two parallel cuts the width of the bolt handle. Notice the picture the flats at 11:00 and 1:00 - looks almost like a dado cut - then finished off with a rotary tool.

    Regards,
    Jim

  9. #7
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2024 @ 06:10 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    61
    Posts
    3,156
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    08:25 PM
    i have a couple real A4,s to copy so its easier...i mark an outline with a pen. slight back as you can see, i use a micrometer and make sure the measurements are good, then with a drawfile that the same width, i slowly make a cut, at the same angle that the first sweep cut is done, then with a medium sized ball cutter on my moto tool, i start the rounded cut, some masking tape around the edge is good...you will slip.
    keep in mind that this and my cut is made for a real A4 bolt or one of my replica sniper bolts..most sporterized bent bolts wont clear the notch.
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  10. Thank You to Chuckindenver For This Useful Post:

    Roy

  11. #8
    Legacy Member Roy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2023 @ 04:09 AM
    Location
    NZ/Ocean
    Posts
    352
    Real Name
    Roy
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    10:25 PM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks guys

    I think I can scale it nicely off Jims picture. My bent bolt is pretty close to a real one but where it curves around the scope it is not ground flat, there is a slight roundover.

    Roy

  12. #9
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    tomwatts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last On
    @
    Location
    USA, Ohio
    Age
    72
    Posts
    127
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    09:25 PM

    Chuck you must be warpathvracing offering the A4 services on flie-bay

    If so nice to know, I am not ready now, but nice to know!
    A witty saying proves nothing.
    Voltaire

  13. #10
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2024 @ 06:10 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    61
    Posts
    3,156
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    06-06-2024
    Local Time
    08:25 PM
    yup, thats me...:}
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. 1903a3 bolt compared to 1903A4 sniper bolt
    By noonanda in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 02-23-2019, 12:18 AM
  2. 1903a4
    By BenS in forum Appraisals, Fakery, Dispute Resolution & Mediation Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-08-2011, 08:06 AM
  3. 1903a4
    By 1941WillysMB in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 08-06-2009, 08:53 PM
  4. 1903A4 bolt?
    By KenK in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-03-2009, 08:43 PM
  5. 1903A4 bolt question
    By xarmor in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 04-12-2009, 07:10 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts