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steel chamber inserts
There is quite a range of steel inserts available if you only need a few shots, I have used the 22 rim fire in the AR-15. Also have used the 32 acp and 32 S&W in 30-06 and 303 cals
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Buy it now for $600.00 and they can be had a lot cheaper.
Colt UMAREX AR-15 type M4 Carbine M4 A3 .22 lr NEW : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Others have said it and I will reiterate, great training tool for LEOs. They function near 100% of the originals, hold the same weight as the originals and are a grip cheaper to shoot.
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The S&W version doesn't look as much like an M4, but the controls are closer to an actual AR than the Colt/Umarex. I think I like a dedicated upper for training about the best. Keeps the lower exactly as when it's being run full bore. No lead deposits in odd places in the full bore upper.
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Makes good sense to have a dedicated upper. We had dedicated Simunition uppers for our tactical AR rifles. Very nice, two pins and a sling point and you had a great training Sim rifle. We had the uppers painted lime green. Not pretty but obvious at a glance
Real obvious!
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They are all 22 caliber.....
In all seriousness. I wouldn't, ever. Some say to train on. My opinion is you should train with what you are going to fight with, no matter how similar they are. That's simply my opinion everyone has one. The other is their cheap to shoot. My take on that. So is a bb gun.
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Love the banter ( I think thats the term I'm looking for) this has me thinking thoughts, you know the ones that coinside with a reduction in ones bank account. I to recently found a love of shooting a .22 LR rifle. It would be fun on a AR platform.
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Originally Posted by
DaveN
Love the banter ( I think thats the term I'm looking for) this has me thinking thoughts, you know the ones that coinside with a reduction in ones bank account. I to recently found a love of shooting a .22 LR rifle. It would be fun on a AR platform.
My opinion if you are not married to the AR platform, Sig 522. Mine is 100% reliable with bulk pack ammo and 100% a blast to shoot! Fold the stock up and it stores in a small area.
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They are all 22 caliber.....

In all seriousness. I wouldn't, ever. Some say to train on. My opinion is you should train with what you are going to fight with, no matter how similar they are. That's simply my opinion everyone has one. The other is their cheap to shoot. My take on that. So is a bb gun.
That's EXACTLY what I mean. That's why the military stopped "training" with .22's after WWII. Turns out .22 was nothing at all like 30-06. Huh. Imagine that. Having said that piece of sarcasm ; ) ........ .22's are loads of fun and of course cheap to shoot. But I can pick up a nice Winchester for a fraction of the price of something on an AR platform. I guess if you absolutely love all things .22 then go for it! Lord knows I've spent more money on things that I'm sure I would be ridiculed for. Like my cat sweater collection. Kidding.... Kidding.....
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You guys crack me up! I actual qualified expert in 78 at lackland basic with a AR 15 in.22 cal. Did I mention it was January the temp 15 degrees wind chill. Oh did I forget to mentiion at the time I had only fired a BB gun up to that point. That .22
Made me look good so I see why they would use them.
I wonder what they did with all those Milsurps when the USAF were done with them?
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if you shoot three gun , you might want a cheap practice round - not everyone is training for battle , and those of us that do are not all well enough off to shoot 223 for practice , and still have enough to shoot the meets and competitions ,
i shoot a ceinar in my carbine and have a $300 dedicated upper for my 20" rifle , both are matched as close as i can get equipment wise ,
and i shoot a kimber conversion on my kimber TLE II ,
also - i just really like 22LR