Unertl Scope Battery Reset

[mike radford]

For a combat sniping rifle a compact scope in a rigid but quick detachable mount is a much better idea than a two foot long target scope.
It will be interesting to see how the new crop of Chinertls does at this years Vintage Sniper Match. Last year the much maligned M1903A4 (or clones thereof) took most of the honors.

Regards,
Jim

Yea, using this scope in combat must have been a real challenge, especially in PTO. Amazing that Carlos H. was still using them with success in Nam, but the Marines have always made the best of what they had. Personnally, the PU's he took on, were probably a better rifle for the environment in which they were used IMO. They were consistent with what Jim says, compact, rigid and fairly quick to detach. The basic Mosin comes with the only tool you would need, a combo tool with a screw driver and firing pin protrusion tool. Time to remove, about 10-15 seconds. Remember, Carlos said on video tape that after I shot him and saw the bullet had gone thru the scope and into his eye, "it occurred to me that I was in his crosshair and had I not been a spit second faster on the trigger, I would not be here"(not exact quote but just of it).

There was a link to a couple groups shot with one of these Repro Unertls, shot by a guy named Mike something in OK. He is gonna use the rifle in the Vintage Sniper matches. They were sub one inch at 100 yds. I wonder if it is the same Mike that was one of the two team members who won overall last time? In that match they used what he stated to be a stock Gibbs A4, with original Gibbs installed barrel and stock and an original Weaver, not Gibbs, scope. I should have one of these repro Unertls any time. Shipped Monday at 5PM.

Looking at a bunch of the pictures from the big VS Match, there were dozens of folks using replicas or real 1903A1 USMC snipers with Unertls. None placed high. CMP had already allowed other Unertls refitted to be 8X or commercial 8X to be used. I could see a ton of them in the pictures. I thought that they would shine and was surprised a 2.5X weaver on what should be a lesser rifle, Gibbs A4, would come out on top.

On resetting the scope, that can be done very quickly. The problem is forgetting. Having used one quite a bit, I can tell you I have forgotten to reset it about 10-15% of the time. It does not make a huge difference in POI.

[vintage hunter]

These repro Unertls, are they USMC marked and numbered? Who's selling them?

[Promo]

I knew I had it somewhere around, but took me some time to find it. See the attached picture

(Doug, if you're reading this: the upload screen didn't work, so I wasn't able to upload it. If you want this image to stay here, please make a copy of it).

[Cosine26]

That looks like a 2 inch Unertl, and the recoil spring is still in operation. I suppose that the Ma Duce would require that as it probably had a lot of recoil.
I believe the rifle that Hathcock used was a M70 Winchester in 30-06 using M72 ammo - probably NM grade. Must have been a chore keeping those Unertl mounts operational in the Nam climate.
I had a friend who served in Nam with a USMC radio operatioin and repair outfit. Said that a Marine came in with an M16 and asked if he could use the sonic cleaner. The cleaner removed all of the finish, and my friend said that you could watch the rust form.

[vintage hunter]

A sniper in Korea with a Win.70/Unertl with spring engaged, anybody recognize him? Another M2/Unertl in Korea. Notice the angle of the scope, target must be way out there.

[mike radford]

These repro Unertls, are they USMC marked and numbered? Who's selling them?

Ordered mine from SWAFA. Their origin is Leatherwood. They are marked USMC but also Wm Malcolm or something like that, making ID as replica pretty easy.

[emmagee1917]

A Ma Duce on a tripod and sandbaged does not move that much , so the scope would remain in place far more than on a rifle .
Chris

[JGaynor]

These repro Unertls, are they USMC marked and numbered? Who's selling them?

They are being imported by Leatherwood-HiLux and offered under their "Wm. Malcolm" line of antique scopes. They are being sold through Leatherwoods Dealer network. To the best of my knowledge they are marked Wm. malcolm with their own s/n series.

Regards,
Jim

[Harlan (Deceased)]

I knew I had it somewhere around, but took me some time to find it. See the attached picture
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...50bmg914-1.jpg
(Doug, if you're reading this: the upload screen didn't work, so I wasn't able to upload it. If you want this image to stay here, please make a copy of it).

Hi Promo,
That's a really a cool photo. Doug bought a program and pays people to run it so that any image as from photobucket ect will be copied and remain on the site even if you delete them from the second party account. It's very difficult to keep things together when reading older threads that may have info your search came up with, but when you find it the instructive photos are just a red 'X' . Doug bought the software a good while back, so most things in the past year are saved here on milsurps.com

As far as uploading directly your photo may be too large, or you just got one step out of sequence. It's easy to get out of sequence if you haven't used it in a while.
Here are detailed instructions you might want to go over, There's also a step by step instructional pdf at the bottom that you can print out after you open it so you can have it beside your computer if needed.
Here's the link - if you're still having problems after trying this, please let me know and I'll see if I can find what's wrong.

Best regards,
~ Harlan

How do I upload pictures to my posts for storage on milsurps.com?

[Michael Petrov]

The only thing I have to offer is that when your working with under 1/2 MOA always push the scope back into battery with your left index finger and don't pull it back.

A few years ago I started using the recoil spring on rifles from 32-40 up to 30-06 and that is working well for me.


Admittedly the majority of my shooting is with lead bullet rifles at 100-200 yards.