Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2012)

[jmoore]

This one ought to fall under the category "you never know until you try". Bore is smooth-ish except for the giant nasty patches of barnacles. But off to the range we went for the first time yesterday. Nine rounds downrange total (EVER) before shooting the target for score.







It shoots just a little left, and recoils just a whole lot! Big fireballs, too. But the sights? All they need is a little tritium insert and they would be fine for a modern combat weapon! Haven't been this pleased with a rifle in a long time.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Ulrich, how about participating in the BDMP .30M1 Carbine competition?

[gunner]

Patrick, tomorrow we have the Bavarian Championship with the .30M1 Carbine and i give it a try. Lets see how well i can do it!

[Patrick Chadwick]

But the sights? All they need is a little tritium insert and they would be fine for a modern combat weapon! Haven't been this pleased with a rifle in a long time.

If you practise a bit, you can sit the image of the standard 8" target black neatly in the foresight cut-out at 100 meters. Not the usual sight picture, but quite effective for target shooting.

[jmoore]

If you practise a bit, you can sit the image of the standard 8" target black neatly in the foresight cut-out at 100 meters. Not the usual sight picture, but quite effective for target shooting.

Practice? It happens quite naturally!

[Patrick Chadwick]

Practice? It happens quite naturally!

It may happen quite naturally, but until you have cleaned out the barnacles and all those shots are in the 9 or 10, practice won't hurt! (But the recoil will!) BTW, the front sight on the one I tried out had indeed been painted with luminous yellow paint by the previous owner, a hunter who had used it as a brush rifle. He probably found that target acquisition with the yellow "saddle" was faster than with a blade type foresight.

[jmoore]

and all those shots are in the 9 or 10

Patrick in case you haven't noticed, I have yet to turn in a target from any rifle with all 9s and 10s! Even scoped, I think. About the only rifles I can plop down and do that are M1As. And not all of them. But we disqualified them as the receivers aren't milsurp.

[Patrick Chadwick]

That's why I like shooting old service rifles. Unlike those nervous hole punchers who feel it's a bad day if they don't score 100/100, in competitions that are decided by the number of 10Xs, we milsurp shooters can feel happy to score a 10 at all with our old bangers. And don't do yourself down! The Berthier target shows 3 shots very nicely grouped. A somewhat milder reload of those cases, neck-sized, with bullets seated to suit the transition cone, could well make that group tight enough to be "all in the 9" quality with, perhaps, a little nudge of the foresight.

[bigduke6]

That's why I like shooting old service rifles. Unlike those nervous hole punchers who feel it's a bad day if they don't score 100/100, in competitions that are decided by the number of 10Xs, we milsurp shooters can feel happy to score a 10 at all with our old bangers.

One of the reasons I got this comp/shoot off the ground Patrick, and its what you say regarding the nervous hole punchers, I,ve seen them with all the kit worth over $4500 + and cant hit a barn door, I do get great pleasure shooting a $200 millsurp with some history, runs on cheap ammo and in some cases not a bad a score at the end of the day.
A quick pull through with a few patches, a wipe over on the wood work with linseed oil, and its ready for its next outing.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Speaking as a one-time nervous hole-puncher myself (but that was half a century ago, I've calmed down a bit since then!) - how do you like this group, in the style of "get as close as you can to the middle without actually hitting it"?
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The rifle is obviously centered well enough.
If anyone has a ballistic explanation of this hollow group, I would be pleased to hear it. Otherwise I can only conclude it is a statistical freak.


Patrick