What do you think of this IP on Gunbroker

[painter777]

Hello Harlan,
I have a few connections for wood. Some guys offer them to me to support a pending sale they might have. I could almost be happy enough just collecting stocks....almost!
But most of the stocks and hand guards I've been getting are coming from a retired ole time dealer in the North West. Years ago he had bought a few thousand GI surplus rifles. Many had come from Canada. He's up in years now, but use to travel to the big western shows just selling the parts. Back in his day these stocks really didn't fetch much. So all those stocks were piled up in his garage, shed and a lean to. Many were stored in the crates he received the rifles in. The broken ones he used to burn in his small shops wood stove. It's sorta a friend of his that keeps an eye on him and helps him out that passes the wood onto me. So it's a joint venture....he gets them to me and I do all the work :-) Most have to be re-finished, because the old finishes are about worn out. Most are just dry from not being oiled for so many years. Some needing repair. I have a pile of those....really a stock pile ;-) Also most will have US and Korean rack number paint jobs on them. I have about 18 stocks plus hand guards coming in about every other week. I have been listed them on Ebay after getting them re-finished. The metal is usually still on them. I just clean and list the recoil plates and usually end up refinishing the butt plates. I can pull a butt plate and fill the bench with sand. Then you start wondering.....What country that sand may have come from? I really enjoy re-finishing them. The nice thing is if the CC and markings haven't been sanded off for the rack number to be applied....I can be sure that I have a stock with REAL markings. It can be sad to see a CC or boxed letters screwed up from the sanding of the stock to apply the rack number, but some come out pretty clear. I never know what I'll find under the old paint. Makes it feel like Xmas morning.
Like I said I've been using Ebay....but getting tired of their constant charges and pulling listings. The part about Ebay that ticks me off the worse is when you sell the item. Pay Pal pulls their cut from the total sale. Which includes what you have figured in for the shipping.
Here's a picture of some I just finished.
From top to bottom are:
IR-IP I cut to Lo-wood....On Auction
NPM type III..................On Auction
NPM type III....I kept...Needs repairs
Q-RMC type III...............On Auction
RMC-B I cut to Lo-wood...sold
B-RMC I cut to Lo-Wood...sold
JL-B IBM type III.............On Auction
RMC Type III...................sold
RMC Type III...................On Auction
Inland Type III Long Channel..On Auction


I plan to look into the for sales board here when I get more familiar with this site. Hope to have more ready in a couple weeks.

Here is a before pic of a Type II Q-RMC stock, that I put on my QHMC 4,751,969,


Here is an after picture of that Q-RMC type II,



This one is one of my favorites, Even though I don't own a Winchester early enough for it. It had been wiped by the previous guy with paint stripper before I got it....A Winchester I cut...still Hi-wood....
Before pic,



Winchester I cut...
After pics,





And this I think is really cool. These are after stripping pics of 2 Type II RSG Hi-woods. You can see the green number stamps in the slide channel,



When I learn the ropes here. I'd like to start listing extra stocks, hand guards etc here. I'm tired of $$$ supporting Ebay and their anti gun views.

Regards
Charlie-painter777

[Harlan (Deceased)]

It looks like you better start learning the that Quartermaster thing. It says you can only have two ads at one time but you could list several in one ad (?)

I hate Ebay too and quit selling months ago.

[painter777]

Harlan,
I'll have to figure something out.....their coming in faster than I can refinish them. Might consider GB.

Charlie-painter777

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Save your $5,000. For that kind of money the pictures should be crystal clear on all the important parts.

When I see poor pictures on high priced guns, I just look away.

[einstine]

Mr Painter Are we talking about the same gun ?
This reciver shows wear in the slide groove.
there is a photo of the barrel band.
there is a photo of the nose of the stock to see if there was any use of a later type band. and it looks like there is only a type 1 band mark . yep it is a clean gun and the parts alone are worth the price right ?

[painter777]

einstine,
The first picture looks as though there was no wear on the receivers slide rail on the right side. Could just be the picture. As stated for this kind of $$ a guy would have to request better pics. Maybe the current high bidder has some, I don't know. I now see the pic of the stock's nose and use of the early band, I missed that. I take full responsibility of making a too early/not fully informed statement about that. Yes it is clean....seems to clean. might have never seen a practice range for all I know.
I do how ever question that barrel for originality.

The value of the parts... I couldn't say... again without better pics.
If the bidder is happy, I guess that's all that counts. I think I seen that the seller is offering a 3 day inspection (?). You have to give him credit for that.

Regards
Charlie-painter777

[Tired Retired]

I understand that collector's place value on items based on their rarity and desirability. I understand that IP's are the rarest of carbines and therefore a 'correct' IP (even if this were one) is worth alot of cash. I can understand paying $5000 for Audie Murphy's carbine, the one that Winston Churchill was once photographed using, the one documented as being at the Iwo flag raising or one used by the 101st for the D-Day invasion. I would even pay $7,000 for a carbine, .45 ACP or Garand if I found documentation in the the National Archives that the weapon had been issued or used by my father during WWII (I am sure we all would). But what I do not understand is this... why would someone pay $5,000 for a carbine with little specific, individual history, which has no displayed accountability or documentation of where it has been for 60 years (it appeared out of thin air), and which will obviously not be used as a shooter... Am I so new at this that I am missing some important point?????

[Tired Retired]

Charlie, you got a sweet deal there. Please let me know if you ever start teaching how to do that with the stocks. What a skill!

[Gary and Karen]

Only two names in the bidding list. Reeks of shill bidding.
Also, price is way too high.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Karen
OFC

[einstine]

It dose take two bidders to set a price. I have seen Irwin Pedersens go for higher prices than this just a few years ago. Some have sold for all most $7000. The photos show all most all the parts and markings except the trigger, firing pin, and recoil plate. Those parts markings are listed in his description. I bet this gun could go a little higher in price yet.