Bullets for the .303?

[MKV111Z]

BES still make both the MkV1 and MkV11 bullets in the UK don't know the cost but I can certainly locate a number for them if anyone needs it.

Cheers

H

[newcastle]

Really a couple of million bullets sounds A LOT, but it's not in actual fact. I think most folks would buy a couple of thousand at least. So that's only 500 people needed, even without the general market out there for 303 from folks who have a variety of milsurps including some 303's. Question is, what would be the price?

[RobD]

"BES still make both the MkV1 and MkV11 bullets in the UK don't know the cost but I can certainly locate a number for them if anyone needs it."

Yes, please - any details of these would be most welcome.

[camerl2009]

i dont think they will work well unless you have a unfired lee enfield best accuracy i get is with a cast bullet my mold is a 220gr(throws 210gr) .316 mold(this was a .313 mold that i had him make to the diameter i wanted its best to size it to throat diameter) from CBE in AUS i can get at least 2" at 100 yards on a good day with my no 4 mk 1 long branch im going to buy his 180gr in the same shape soon

[Nigel]

BES Bullets can be contacted at mseller208@aol.com tell them that Nigel sent you!

They make both flat based 174 and 215 grain .303. I have tested some of the 174 in a No.4(T) and it shoots slightly better than Sierra MatchKing. They bullets are virtually hand made on a single stage press. Cost is £20 per 50. If you have a cordite shot barrel these bullets could probably extend barrel life by another 1,000 - 1,500 rounds. They shoot very well to 200 yards - not tested them further than that but I won a 200 yard McQueen's sniper comp using them. 48ex 50 with a 4" bull.

They have just started to make the original round nosed profile 160 grain 6.5mm. Shot some in my Swedish M/41B sniper and at 100 yards they shot to 0.36".

[RobD]

Anyone tried these? Does anyone know what the bullet diameter is?
Frontier Caliber .308 185grs. RN/FP
100pcs. € 8,-

Frontier (Rifle bullets)

[Alan de Enfield]

Where the heck did I read that Kynamco Limited in the U.K. still makes military spec .303 174 grain FMJ flat base MkV11 bullets? Any correction/information would be appreciated. Cheers, Don

Yes they do.
I have a few boxes and they perform as per Mk7 (in fact they call it Mk7)
Here is a section (done with a rusty hacksaw and a hammer)






And to answer the question about bore / lands sizing :




And - Mk7 Vs Mk8 ammunition

[drweiler]

That's where I read it! Thanks, Don

[muffett.2008]

Thats a great diagram Alan, but the real thing is a bit different.

Attachment 33936

From the left, G1 case, tracer proj., 8z case, 8z proj., Mk7 proj, Highland FMJBT, Sierra FMJBT, Tiapan HPBT, all 174 grain.

Attachment 33938

The difference in the bases varies a bit from the diagram.

Attachment 33937

Note the more defined taper and less bearing surface than the aftermarket projectiles, this increased bearing surface and softer metal are what combats the old throat erosion stories.

Heres a page from Sierra on BTvFB in .30 cal, remember this problem of throat erosion is applicable right across the board, not just confined to cordite, just a tad more noticable because of the rapidity of the onset with old Military ammo.

Attachment 33939

Though this article does not deal with throat erosion as such, it does bring it all back to barrel condition, our problem is that we don't want to despoil our collectables, but still want match grade accuracy, the unachievable without rebarreling......bugger.

[David TS]

Where the heck did I read that Kynamco Limited in the U.K. still makes military spec .303 174 grain FMJ flat base MkV11 bullets? Any correction/information would be appreciated. Cheers, Don

I can confirm that too, as Kynamco are very usefully just 20 minutes drive from my house

I picked up a couple of boxes from them a few months ago.