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05-18-2012 07:37 PM
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Lithgow Lee Enfield Rifle I suspect is a John Jovino - need help
I need your help in identifying positively if my rifle is a John Jovino Lithgow
Lee Engfield or not. My hope is it is not a John Jovino but I suspect it is.
Under the bolt it says Lithgow SHT.LEE III 1915.
Cerial # matches on the nose cap and on the metal up near the bolt action where there is a 5MD, an old 7 pointed star with an A in it and a shield below with ACP in it as well as a second cerial number that matches the cerial number in the wood in the butt stock.
Also on the butt stock is 1915, 5MD, CMF, 18, HV, III and a shield with a kangaroo inside it with the letter A on the left of the kangaroo and C on the right.
On the wood on the underside behind the trigger guard is a 7 pointed star and AUSTRAILIA stamped over it.
On the underneath on the other side of the trigger and the magazine stamped in the wood is Z. You can make out a faint old V two inches further up the wood on the underneath side.
The bolt does not have a matching cereal number. It has the seven pointed star with an A in it as well as MA'41.
The rear site does not have a windgauge screw although the wood shows there was one once. The cereal numbers on the rear site don't match the metal near the bolt or the nose cap or in the wood of the butt stock.
Volley sites are mounted on the gun but the way they are mounted does not look right. For example the forward volley site that looks like a sundial is mounted by a screw instead of being "pinned" in.
The rifle does have brass recoil pads.
The front site has N and an arrow next to it.
The barrell is in very good condition. Here is what is marked on it when I removed the wood. SA with an arrow between them maybe, JJ (one J is higher than the first J), a crown marking that looks to be of India, maybe a I L over 76 over C, maybe a D over a 2 over a C, maybe SA over 2 ?, a square with an O in the center and I L over S A over O maybe.
There are no markings on the Lower Band.
There is an old seven pointed star on the metal behind the front site and the nose guard.
The wood all apears to be original and the same.
I suspect this is a gun by John Jovino. I will try and post some photos if I can figure out how to do it. Great looking Lee Enfield but not sure it is what I hope it to be, a true Lithgow. If anyone has any feedback, please let me know. I hope to hear feedback soon.
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05-18-2012 07:37 PM
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05-19-2012 12:27 PM
#5042
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New Member and Military Rifle Collector
Hi Everyone,
Just joined and looking forward to those with similar interests.
I am a retired US Army Colonel, both active and reserve.
I am an NRA certified instructor, in both pistol, personal protection and Refuse to be a victim.
My collecting goal was to obtain one example of every major rifle that was ever issued
by the United States
Army. Not alternate issues or contract weapons. I have largely
achieved this goal.
I have other questions, but will save for later.
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05-19-2012 03:53 PM
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G'day all
Have been floating around this site for quite a while now. I actually registered with the original Milsurps.com and was an occassional poster on the forums.
A good mate, Fergs, is also a member here and we both share a passion for the old ex-mils.
I have significantly increased the collection since I first joined this site and have plans to add quite a few more.
I'm in a unique position to see an interesting array of old WWI & II bolt rifles at this time. Though many will never be able to grace anyone's safe nor be returned to original glory. Still, one good thing has come from it and I will be chasing up a P-14 when I get home.
Anyway, I look forward to a more active participation in the time to come.
Cheers
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05-19-2012 06:00 PM
#5044
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i'm a new member I have a Brazilian
Model 1935 Mauser Rifle looking for scope & mounts
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05-19-2012 09:50 PM
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Hello
Hi everyone! I just found this forum after spending YEARS on the net. Yeah, that's me- slow on the pick up... Anyway...
I have been collecting MilSurp guns for a few years, and I find that I am enjoying them much more than the more "current" guns in my meager collection. I like shooting cast bullet loads in them, don't want to stress them too much, you know! I am also looking for more info on the Johnson Rifle.
Looking forward to learning more about the guns I have and the ones I *want*!
Best Regards to you all,
Weldmeister
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05-19-2012 10:26 PM
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Thank You to gdk771 For This Useful Post:
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05-19-2012 11:10 PM
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Just starting my collection
Made my first purchase in the 80's from my uncle, an unissued 1942 Savage No.4 MK1* in cosomline and paper. My second Enfield came after my fathers passing to start a memorial for him as he served from the beginning to the end with the Royal Canadian
Service Corp in WW II... A No. 5 Jungle Carbine (F) 1946. My latest and greatest is a Longbranch No. 7 Canadian Trainer with transit case in pristine condition! Total spent on all three rifles.......$ 950 cdn....$100, $350 and $500 !!!!!! One collector saw all three rifles and said they are museum quality or better.
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05-20-2012 01:22 AM
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New to Milsurps
Howdy y'all
Found this site a few months ago and am now hooked. Started my military firearm acquisitions with a Russian
SKS, then a Mosin-Nagant, and now looking for a M1
Garand and M1903 Springfield. I think I've found my passion. Guess I'll stick around a while.
McJocar
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05-20-2012 09:33 AM
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Newbie here just wanting to say hello. 2 Finn M39's, 2 K31
's and several MN 91/30's.
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05-20-2012 06:40 PM
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Hello to All !
I am a beginning military surplus collector from Texas now living in southern Louisiana.
I am excited by what I've seen on the site since joining today. I hope someday to be able to contribute knowledge here.
Thanks
Benton
1944 Nosin Nagant M44 carbine
1978 Factory 147 Chinese Type 56 carbine (SKS)
1960 Walther P.38 pistol (former BMI police issue)
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