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    The one I saw had no yellow on it only the green band on the stock.

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    My last post might be misunderstood. I'm talking about rifles with either yellow on the nosecap or green band on the butt. I've never seen both combined.

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    I have one that at one time had yellow on the nose cap

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    Yellow (or white) is DP, green is fit to fire but unless you have a mixed up butt, you can't have both.

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    Peter in Australiaicon cadets rifles with yellow nosecaps are not regarded as being DP'd to my knowledge. This is a bit of a grey area for me. Id like to understand better the cadet system in Australia and how the rifles were marked accordingly
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    We had some Cadets units/schools under our wing in Australiaicon and as I remember it, we had both yellow and white markings on rifles and Brens which following the UKicon practice I took to mean DP. Mind you, in the UK, yellow at the time indicated blank firing attachments. We also had DP L1A1's in the system too - at Kapooka as I recall - but I never saw them to recognise as they were left standard finish

    But a green band, as we had on the last of the old No1 EY rifles and some AK47's/PKM's/RPD's etc etc indicates non service but certiified fit to fire ball or blank (or ballastite in the case of the EY's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdy View Post
    Used by a cadet unit - designates safe to fire live ammunition.
    Remember that is an Australianicon Cadet Unit. I have never seen that coloured band system in use in the UKicon.

    In the UK, coloured bands (usually based on Arm of Service colours) were often used by Army Cadet Force Units to differentiate their rifles from those of other units.

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    I'm sure I've posted this on here before, EMEI WEAPON D 259, 3. Selected rifles are to function mechanically and woodwork is to be free from cracks and splitting which may interfere with normal handling.
    4. Selected rifles are to be converted as follows:
    a. Grind about 15mm from front of firing pin.
    b. Fill in firing pin hole with weld.
    c. Stamp or engrave the letters 'DP' adjacent to the rifle serial numbers.....................
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    5. Paint a 75mm wide golden yellow band 60mm forward from the rear of the butt where the butt plate is screwed on, and another band 75mm wide at the handguards left and right. Paint in black the letters 'DP' 25mm high on each side of the butt and on each side of handguard adjacent to each other.

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    According to Skennertonicon:-

    Green indicates approval for ball ammunition firing - yellow. 2nd grade but still suitable for live firing - red, not to be fired. (TL-E p351)

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    I think that these answers, being a mix of Pom and Aust EMER's have pretty-well summed it up.

    How's that for a comprehensive reply. It's what's called 'the wisdom of the crowd.

    But as an aside. Do the Cadet Forces still exist in the local towns and Public Schools in Australiaicon/New Zealand as they do in the UKicon. My sons school had (when he was there.....) and still have a thriving Cadet Force where one or two dads are able to 'provide' all manner of 'stuff' - if you understand what I'm saying.

    Further to this, and don't tell anyone I told you, but occasionally, I'd be asked to run sons school Cadets Sunday morning range practice at one of the local 1/200 yard or 25 yard ranges. Just to inject a spark of realism as opposed to the dry old by-the-book rubbish that the school or Training team staff used to preach. So I'd bring along 6 of the standard L85/SA80 rifles instead of their issue single shot, hand cocking, bolt action, prone to stoppages rifles. When the junior ranking Cadets had done their thing, the more senior lads would get to grips with the real McCoy (no auto fire though---- too dodgy.....) and sail smartly and quickly through their range classification. More happy days but with ever tightening safety rules, these days are becoming a thing of the past.

    Is it the same in Canadaicon, Aust and NZ?

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