What do you think of this IP on Gunbroker

[EricR]

That's about right.

Everyone I know has at least one IP in their collection but how many have a spring tube Rock-Ola or Inland? Not to mention the line out variants.

You're in an enviable crowd. I can remember the days (years) of wanting an IP. But carbines were a bit harder to find when I started collecting.

Eventually I ended up with two IP's. Gave my high number to my best man.

Sort of neat, the one I kept now has a close relative up for auction on the CMP website...serial number is only 27 away from mine.

[BrianQ]

Tired Retired,
There was no reason for you to defend your post. The reason I quoted your post was without the quote my post would have been out of context. My intent was to help clear up a common misconception that IP carbines are the rarest of carbines. Which is it simply is not the case, although most people still believe they are. Another common misconception is the IP contract was cancelled and given to Saginaw Gear because IP carbines couldn’t pass the acceptance test. The reason cited in the cancellation documents listed management problems. Personally I think the Ordnance Department had an ulterior motive. They had already decided to cancel the IP contract before the first scheduled delivery date of March 1943. Most likely IP would not have met the first delivery deadline but neither did any of the other carbine manufacturers yet their contracts were not cancelled abruptly. IP’s contract was written as a cost plus contract, meaning no matter how much it cost IP to produce a carbine Ordnance was required to pay the actual production cost plus a pre-negotiated amount per carbine. All the other contracts were fixed price contracts. Ordnance needed a way out of what could have been a high cost per carbine contract and they found an excuse.

[Tired Retired]

Wow, that is alot of detailed history that I have not ran across yet. Guess 1940's military contracting was as full of "skeletons in closets" as today's DoD contracts. Guess $800 hammers is not just a modern thing! I don't have an IP yet, but I will remember that if I manage to get luck enough to afford one in the future. Til then, I guess I will just be in search of the perfect Inland or Underwood. LOL.. thanks for the extra info!

[Curt]

Made it through anopther week OK. The toys can stay for now.

[Tired Retired]

Curt, congrats... I am sure that you are going to enjoy this weekend like none of us will.... keep the faith and hang in there.

[Harlan (Deceased)]

Ed,

I agree. With only a very few (1%?) original; as built carbines in existence, and then a rare manufacturer at that, who's kidding who buying one you can't even inspect from an internet auction site?

As often quoted by the CAF:

65 year old WARBIRDS are a bunch of scrounged parts flying in close formation.

I think almost all "original" firearms on auction sites are frauds. JMO

[Piercesaw]

I tried to contact rampant - the buyer of this carbine- but gunbroker would not let me. I have some paperwork on this carbine. If anyone here knows who the buyer is have him contact me. I have info and the afore mentioned paperwork.

[Curt]

i can't find any info for the secound IP how did it end? Also the third one that popped up with the boxed IP and the $5K buy it now.

[Bill Hollinger]

Tired Retired, I got the meaning of you post. The IP IS the rarest of the 11 single prime contractors and has even more value because supposedly none passed inspection or so the story goes. Is it the rarest carbine? No, but it sure would be nice to have one. Not any $5000.00 worth for that one anyway.

I seem to remember that serial number being sold on GB as a bare receiver about a year ago. Does this ring a bell with anyone else???

[Piercesaw]

Which serial number are you meaning? is it the 1775599? I need to get hold of rampant.