Springfield M1903 - Your opinions about

**Bizio** · 09-06-2012 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rick the Librarian

When you said no finish, you meant "NO finish"!!

No finish = never ending LOL

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You can see that in the serial number over the receiver or under the rear sights.

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**Fred G.** · 09-08-2012 11:43 AM

VERY Nice rifle! What date is on your bayonet?

**Bizio** · 09-08-2012 12:55 PM

Thank you. The bayo is same year of the rifle, 1913.

I also have a SA 1919 M1905 16" bayo which belonged to US Navy.

and a 1917 "RIA" M1905 bayo.

**Rick the Librarian** · 09-09-2012 09:46 AM

Although it would be hard to tell 100%, I doubt that the bayonet with the "USN MKI" scabbard was U.S. Navy issue. A large number of mostly plastic training bayonets was manufactured with these scabbards. The bayonets didn't last too long and the scabbards (which were a lot more sturdy) were used as replacements.

**Bizio** · 09-09-2012 01:49 PM

I thought it was since it has "USN" on one grip and an anchor on the other grip.

**Rick the Librarian** · 09-10-2012 08:25 AM

Oops! I did miss that, but I have some doubts that is a true indicator. It would be too easy for a former owner (or seller) to stamp those initials into the wood. The scabbard is definitely a replacement. If you go on eBay and other sources you'll see lots of Mark I scabbards.

**Bizio** · 09-10-2012 08:58 AM

I understand what you mean.
Yes, probably all those scabbards have been replaces with later models since the original scabbards went lost.
The original early scabbards for M1905 bayonets were they of leather or canvas, weren't they ?
As for the stamp in the grips that could really be a fake, I am searching to find any info about similar grips.

**Bizio** · 09-10-2012 10:29 AM

Those grips could really be a fake.

Found this post

USN-marked 1917 bayo? - M14 Forum

**browningautorifle** · 09-10-2012 10:39 AM

I think those are for a 1907 bayonet. Lots of them around. The fit's terrible, not even close. I'd be more inclined to make a set fron scratch then use those like that. I agree that someone was stamp happy that day.

**Bizio** · 09-10-2012 10:47 AM

Yes, so that after looking those ones I think my grips could be a fake as well as Rick the Librarian icon

suspected.

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