An explosively dismantled Enfeld

[lngstrt]

I might add that sellers of old rifles should be responsible and check them over properly before resale.

Some fellers apparently realize they got taken on the rifle and try to turn it as soon as possible. Let it be the next sucker's problem. I go to enough shows here in Phoenix and I see the same rifles at multiple shows. Often on different tables than at another show. I recommend getting a seller's name and address just like he wants yours.

[RobD]

Out of interest, in what circumstances would the injured party have a case in law against the seller?

[Ridolpho]

An interesting question and one which likely has a different answer in each country represented by the membership. My observation at shows I attend here in Alberta is that while sellers rarely advertise a gun as shootable, if pressed they will often make a verbal claim about headspace, etc, that might be thought to carry some legal obligation. However, you would think a bill of sale that states "sold as is, with no guarantee of mechanical condition" might cover a seller and remind the purchaser of his personal responsibility. As for buyers- find a gunsmith if you are at all uncertain! What I would hate to see is fear of litigation render private sales impossible.

Ridolpho

[Alan de Enfield]

In the UK it would be "Fit for Purpose" and as far as I am aware there would only be two categories for firearms

To be able to SELL a firearm it must be either:
a) A 'shooter' which is safe to use as intended. Only firearms which have been proof tested (and marked as such) can be sold. Any changes to any pressure parts (bolt, action, bolt head or barrel) require the weapon to be re-proofed.
b) A 'deactivated' firearm that will (should) have an official certificate from the proof house confirming that it has been deactivated to Government specification.

[Brian Dick]

Paul, Yeah, I know. It's wishful thinking I guess. God forbid anyone takes any personal responsibility anymore. See you at KCR.

[Beerhunter]

A 'deactivated' firearm that will (should) have an official certificate from the proof house confirming that it has been deactivated to Government specification.

But there is not req

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In the UK it would be "Fit for Purpose" and as far as I am aware there would only be two categories for firearms

b) A 'deactivated' firearm that will (should) have an official certificate from the proof house confirming that it has been deactivated to Government specification.

But there is no legal requirement for that. A dect can be sold without a Certificate (it will still have the Proof House Mark.) It can even be sold without a mark, its just that one would then need to take one's chances on an individual case basis.

[jmoore]

Added this thread to the "Gallery of Dramas" for future reference.

Link here:

Gallery of Dramas. Broken Enfield Parts!

[BubbaTheKid]

One old boy told me his guns were safe as he had his idiot brother in law shoot them!

Now THAT is funny. Still can't believe dude pulled the trigger on that DP rifle. Sad day in America when a guy named Bubba is dissapointed by what somone did to a gun...

[Brit plumber]

I'd like to say that the gentleman concerned was quite brave to have the story publicly aired on this forum as this forum has some of the most experienced Enfielders on the planet, and he must have known he would be ripped apart! If his story educates only one potencial DP buyer then it must be worth it. As they say, you learn from your mistakes, and hopefully others do too!! If we continue to bash people for airing their stories, then perhaps other important lessons may be kept secret.

So, thank you for taking the time to share your mistake and for taking the bashing. I know that its a mistake that you wont make again and I hope anyone who reads this will doubly check any rifle they are unfamiliar with.

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

So, thank you for taking the time to share your mistake and for taking the bashing. I know that its a mistake that you wont make again and I hope anyone who reads this will doubly check any rifle they are unfamiliar with.

I am in full agreement with that statement. The best way to learn a lesson is by others mistakes. I am thankful he was not injured and had the courage to take his lumps for the benifit and saftey of the less knowlegable.