type of lube?????

[ABPOS]

I had always used the same grease as I did on my Garand. Now looking at the army field manual on here, it keeps referring to oil.

What do you guys use? CLP? Rem oil? Grease? Motor oil?



Also, isn't there a paper you can download that helps you scribble down all the different parts you have? I'm curious to do that. I might be borrowing my Dad's carbine tomorrow to clean it up and give it a good look also.

Thank you so much for putting up with all of my questions.

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[Bill Hollinger]

If it rolls, oil it. If is slides, grease it.

[phil441]

http://www.carbineclub.com/DataSheetrev31-1-11.pdf

[ABPOS]

http://www.carbineclub.com/DataSheetrev31-1-11.pdf

Thank you very much sir!!!

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If it rolls, oil it. If is slides, grease it.

That's not what it says in the military manual above. It just says "oil". In fact, I think it said, "Light Oil".

Rolling parts would be the hammer pin, aaaaaah, what else.. Extractor? Safety, newer style. Trigger pin. Rear sight windage knob and screw.

Sliding parts would be a lot. I would guess, bolt lugs and rails in receiver, op slide point of contacts, spring guide does both probably, hehehhe, aaah spring guide for hammer spring, face of hammer, firing pin, ejector, extractor plunger, mag catch, rear sight ap, slide stop...... piston does both slide and rolls..... But I heard you shouldn't put anything on that, eh?

[Bruce McAskill]

Just remember that a little grease goes a long way. Slide rails on the barrel. Where the bolt slides in and on the receiver and where the slide moves on the receiver. The rest you can lightly oil with a drop at a time. Too much is as bad as too little.

[ABPOS]

After cleaning mine up this last time, I think I might have used too much previously. And I wonder if that's got anything to do with the fact that I couldn't get it to not malf every time I took her out. I googled it and there were some guys claiming that grease might slow down the action and cause malfs and that oil might not be so "gumming". It makes sense. A bunch of grease on a Garand is probably not as big a deal, it just all seems more robust. The round, recoil, action. Etc. But maybe too much is a bad thing on the carbine. And one guy was saying you'll have less wear on the parts if you use grease and not oil. But if you're only using a little, I'm not so sure I totally agree with that.

I'm debating on just trying oil the next time I take it out. But I would think something a little heavier than CLP would be wise. I don't know. I don't think one range session would hurt it. Another thing is it's already getting cold out up here. I have a feeling by the time I take it out, it's going to be relatively chilly. Which I know might mean less is better. Or oil. I doubt it will be "arctic" conditions. But I have shot outside below 30 degrees before. Not too much these last few years, but plenty before that.

[Bill Hollinger]

I use red lithium wheel bearing grease and have never had an issue. I do use it very sparingly.

[wensteph]

I went back to oil. The modern gun oils (Hoppe's Elite, Corrosion X, Gun Butter, Ballistol) all have lower friction coefficients than grease and all stay put.

OK, Ballistol isn't new, but it's still good.

[DaveHH]

I've used copious amounts of grease for 30 years and they always work, even with lighter handloads. Grease stays put. I will say that the teflon LSA would probably work very well for this application as it leaves a coating of teflon on the metal.. Any grease is fine, lubriplate is preferred.

[ABPOS]

Great input! I really appreciate it from everyone!


I came across a pdf from the CMP that talked about how to understand and troubleshoot a 60 year old plus carbine. And one thing it mentioned what that a lot of commercial ammo was lightly loaded and may cause problems. Whereas Lake City or govt manufactured ammo is hotter. I've never shot anything but commercial ammo in mine. Comments are welcomed about that.

I think this go around, I'm going to start out with a lighter oil, and see how they run. And then try some grease. It may be that I was putting it on too thick. I don't know. I remember just putting it on a q tip and rubbing some in there. I don't recall gobbing it on with my fingers though. But maybe I did. I clearly saw some residue from my white lithium grease on the side of my hammer.