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    Happy Veteran's Day

    Thanks for the info! I just thought they stopped using denims by then(apparently not). Great story I'd be proud too. My dad was in the North Atlantic doing convoy duty on a Destroyer Escort.



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    The common thread I find with the entire WW2 generation, in both the US and UKicon, was that was the sense of duty they all had. Whether in the service, the factories, or the home front doing victory gardens, scrap drives and buying bonds, everyone did their part (and proud to do it!). The idea of not doing it was so foreign to them, it was not even an option. People just stepped "up to the plate" and performed their duty. The incredible production of over 6 million carbines by jukebox, typewriter, postal meter, and auto parts companies in 4 years is an allegory for the whole war effort and experience of the country. Speaking as a History teacher, it is unparalleled in History.

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    Man, even on Day 7 Iwo was a scary place. To my knowledge. Thank you for sharing. Great pictures too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imarangemaster View Post
    The common thread I find with the entire WW2 generation, in both the US and UKicon, was that was the sense of duty they all had. Whether in the service, the factories, or the home front doing victory gardens, scrap drives and buying bonds, everyone did their part (and proud to do it!). The idea of not doing it was so foreign to them, it was not even an option. People just stepped "up to the plate" and performed their duty. The incredible production of over 6 million carbines by jukebox, typewriter, postal meter, and auto parts companies in 4 years is an allegory for the whole war effort and experience of the country. Speaking as a History teacher, it is unparalleled in History.
    My fear is that it will remain unparalleled. My generation (including me) to a great degree has not known the deprivation and hard work preformed by the "greatest generation" coming up which prepaired them for the sacrafices and dilligance required to meet the challanges they faced.I suppose the only thing I have going for me ,having an intrest in history i recognize the fact.
    Thanks for being a teacher of history. Perhaps some of your students will carry the knowlege forward that we stand on the shoulders of giants. From the mothers that sent there husbands and sons to war,to the folks who went to work every day to produce the war materials that made victory possiable and obviously those who faced tearony head on to preserve our freedom.

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    "My fear is that it will remain unparalleled."

    What are you saying? I hope we never have another generation that has to grow up in a depression and fight in a world war. My fear is that it could happen again.

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    I should say " I was a History teacher" I am one of California's 30,000 now unemployed teachers. The district I used to teach at now has 45 students in a high school History class.....

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    I should clarify: I am not now employed as a teacher, but I am employed.... Many teachers who were cut are on welfare, unemployment, or working at Taco Bell or Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    What are you saying? I hope we never have another generation that has to grow up in a depression and fight in a world war. My fear is that it could happen again.
    Sorry if I was unclear .Your fear is my own. I obviously am thankful my generation did not face such challenges I just hope it did not leave us ill prepaired for the challanges ahead the world seems to be on fire not unlike 1939. Let us all pray the current generation learned the lessons of history. The measure of greatness I hope for in the current genreation is the greatness of staying strong enough to disuade those who would bring havoc and destruction upon our world from doing so. My fear is that our soft lives prevent us from even paying attention to the danger that abounds. History ignored is destined to be repeated.

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    As a nation are we capable of facing up to this challenge again?

    Good luck on that Buddy. The people who would be called upon are for the most part, apathetic, selfish, spoiled, out of shape mind numbed cell phone zombies. All by design I might add. Wars are not supposed to be fought by 35 year olds with families. The only reason there isn't a draft is that they would have to draft women and daddy doesn't want his beautiful daughter coming home with only one leg.

    WW2 was the single largest event in the history of mankind. I'd bet that in that five year period, they shot off about 10-20% of the world's resources, steel, lumber, petroleum, strategic metals etc. The amount of labor hours is beyond estimating. It will never happen again because it isn't possible given the world situation. Russiaicon was making 600 T34s a month and that was just PART of their production. These tanks would last about 10 hrs each. If you think that the American public will give up their I Pads, TVs, cars and free time to fight one of these bogus wars again, you are mistaken. If we are invaded, perhaps, but probably not. They would be looking for someone to sue. Vietnam was the last conflict that bears any resemblance to WW2 and it was tiny by comparison. If I sound cynical, I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveHH View Post
    If I sound cynical, I am.
    I am fighting hard against being cynical. It's not easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imarangemaster View Post
    I should clarify: I am not now employed as a teacher, but I am employed.... Many teachers who were cut are on welfare, unemployment, or working at Taco Bell or Walmart.
    Californa. Wow I would bet that was an uphill battle when you were teaching. The thanks holds just the same.

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