Inland carbine, worth

[Bob K]

Charlie,
Sorry about your father.

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

John was having trouble posting pictures and sent them to me.

Here is his carbine.

Jim

[imarangemaster]

Wow! That is a gorgeous Inland That's about mint condition, even better than mine. Nice score.

[USGI]

That's a really nice one for sure! I don't see anything wrong except maybe the sling, possibly it was added later along with the pouch? I had a really nice one with that webbing and most of the guys here told me it was a repro. I sold it pretty cheap, but did find where a couple of collectors on this site have them, and swear they are legit. - Bob

[HILLBILLY-06]

I understand your's was a estate purchase and very possible the guy did work at Inland. May have just wanted a carbine from where he had worked.
Many possibilities, could be a old NRA or DCM carbine he grabbed, or bought privately.

I thought I would share this, about some employee's at a gun place many years ago....
I remember sitting with an elderly Gentleman, and WWII Vet. He was in his final years then, as time would tell. But in amoung the sad stories he refered to once in a while, one of the only jobs he ever had in his life, (Military first real job) and after the war, he work at a small arms repair/rebuild facility where he worked on carbines and M1 Garands. A couple of his old war buddies were there, at this time, who also worked there when he did.
I noticed how they smiled a lot while talking about that job, they all had kind of a sparkle in thier eyes. One of those elderly gentleman leaned over to the other and asked "you still got that referb rifle that we all got back in the good ole days?" Mind you they worked there, so they rebuilt these rifles and knew what was there. "All three of these guys" each had the best rebuild they could produce. Complete with a few accessories. Now we're talking about many years ago, all these guys are long gone by about 20 years now, but the point is, sometimes, employes figure out how to "obtain" or perhaps "aquire" some of the best rifles that they could produce, back in the old day's, not talking about now... lol. . I actually got to see two of the three Gentlemans rifles. I never saw the third Gentlemans rifle. He had passed away before I had a chance to see his. But the two I saw, I was told were 100% correct rifles, one was a carbine, the other a garand. Back then I didn't know what that meant. The old guy went on to tell me, it all started when they just started holding back a few parts, untill they found a match for a parts grouping. I didn't know what that meant either, but anyway... he eventually built a matching trigger group. Then a barreled reciever showed up that matched that, then a stock with the right metal parts, and so on. He just kept going until he had a whole rifle, by taking and swaping enough parts around. Once finished, the guys decided to try it two more times. I still didnt know then what a correct rifle was... lol. I just thought that meant they were put together the right way, and not the wrong way. I had no idea what I was holding in my hands. But they werent for sale anyway, the old vet was just showing them to me one day, while I was visiting him. When the first of the three passed away, thats how the other guy wound up with two of the old rifles. I don't know what happened after that, and all of those older guys are long gone now.
Sorry, I didn't intend to run on so much, but I did know three old guys that "worked at a place" that got some real gems back when they was still young and brave, or dumb and young, depending on how you read into it.

[johnboy]

That's a really nice one for sure! I don't see anything wrong except maybe the sling, possibly it was added later along with the pouch? I had a really nice one with that webbing and most of the guys here told me it was a repro. I sold it pretty cheap, but did find where a couple of collectors on this site have them, and swear they are legit. - Bob

Hi , yes the sling and pouch did,nt come with the carbine I brought those later.

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I thought I would share this, about some employee's at a gun place many years ago....
I remember sitting with an elderly Gentleman, and WWII Vet. He was in his final years then, as time would tell. But in amoung the sad stories he refered to once in a while, one of the only jobs he ever had in his life, (Military first real job) and after the war, he work at a small arms repair/rebuild facility where he worked on carbines and M1 Garands. A couple of his old war buddies were there, at this time, who also worked there when he did.
I noticed how they smiled a lot while talking about that job, they all had kind of a sparkle in thier eyes. One of those elderly gentleman leaned over to the other and asked "you still got that referb rifle that we all got back in the good ole days?" Mind you they worked there, so they rebuilt these rifles and knew what was there. "All three of these guys" each had the best rebuild they could produce. Complete with a few accessories. Now we're talking about many years atgo, all these guys are long gone by about 20 years now, but the point is, sometimes, employes figure out how to "obtain" or perhaps "aquire" some of the best rifles that they could produce, back in the old day's, not talking about now... lol. . I actually got to see two of the three Gentlemans rifles. I never saw the third Gentlemans rifle. He had passed away before I had a chance to see his. But the two I saw, I was told were 100% correct rifles, one was a carbine, the other a garand. Back then I didn't know what that meant. The old guy went on to tell me, it all started when they just started holding back a few parts, untill they found a match for a parts grouping. I didn't know what that meant either, but anyway... he eventually built a matching trigger group. Then a barreled reciever showed up that matched that, then a stock with the right metal parts, and so on. He just kept going until he had a whole rifle, by taking and swaping enough parts around. Once finished, the guys decided to try it two more times. I still didnt know then what a correct rifle was... lol. I just thought that meant they were put together the right way, and not the wrong way. I had no idea what I was holding in my hands. But they werent for sale anyway, the old vet was just showing them to me one day, while I was visiting him. When the first of the three passed away, thats how the other guy wound up with two of the old rifles. I don't know what happened after that, and all of those older guys are long gone now.
Sorry, I didn't intend to run on so much, but I did know three old guys that "worked at a place" that got some real gems back when they was still young and brave, or dumb and young, depending on how you read into it.

This carbine came out of Michigan,

[painter777]

Johnboy,
I see Jim got your pictures posted.
Very nice looking carbine.
Seems I can just make out the chisel type stake marks on the dovetails.
Do you shoot it?
Any idea what part of Michigan?

JimF,
Thx for stepping in for me.
Pretty busy here with the phone.

Hillbilly-06,
I recall some volunteers at a store in the 'South' with a similiar story ;-)


Ch-P777

[INLAND44]

Johnboy; the slide and trigger housing are Inland. The 'W' on the bottom of the slide is an inspector's mark - internal Inland or Packard (Packard for Inland - 'P.I.') mark, not gov inspector. The slide is called a 'Type 5' and started showing up around 5.0. At least that's what I think. I have a 4.927 with a Type 5 but I don't think it's original since it also has many other updated parts. However, if your carbine is truly a 'time machine' and is in unmolested configuration, I guess it is what it is.
As for the stock, you might consider cutting your linseed oil 50% with turpentine which speeds penetration. I would give it a few light doses, inside and out, then rest it for a few months. Get a film of lubricant/preservative on all metal surfaces too.

Wow. Somehow I missed the pics before posting. Looks like you have the situation well in hand on the stock oil and gun oil. It's beauty for sure.

[johnboy]

Johnboy; the slide and trigger housing are Inland. The 'W' on the bottom of the slide is an inspector's mark - internal Inland or Packard (Packard for Inland - 'P.I.') mark, not gov inspector. The slide is called a 'Type 5' and started showing up around 5.0. At least that's what I think. I have a 4.927 with a Type 5 but I don't think it's original since it also has many other updated parts. However, if your carbine is truly a 'time machine' and is in unmolested configuration, I guess it is what it is.
As for the stock, you might consider cutting your linseed oil 50% with turpentine which speeds penetration. I would give it a few light doses, inside and out, then rest it for a few months. Get a film of lubricant/preservative on all metal surfaces too.

Wow. Somehow I missed the pics before posting. Looks like you have the situation well in hand on the stock oil and gun oil. It's beauty for sure.

Would like to get the stock a little darker ,, it was really dried out.. Thanks for your reply, sling and pouch did,nt come with it.

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Johnboy,
I see Jim got your pictures posted.
Very nice looking carbine.
Seems I can just make out the chisel type stake marks on the dovetails.
Do you shoot it?
Any idea what part of Michigan?

JimF,
Thx for stepping in for me.
Pretty busy here with the phone.

Hillbilly-06,
I recall some volunteers at a store in the 'South' with a similiar story ;-)


Ch-P777

Never have shot it.

[INLAND44]

Don't worry about 'getting it darker'. It looks just about like it did in '44 now.