RANGE REPORT: 12-43 Inland and Standard Products Mix-Master

[imarangemaster]

As I was working a rare day shift up in the mountains, I decided to take both carbines (un-messed with Inland and Standard Products Mix-Master) and compare them side by side with three different loads. Unfortunately I was limited to 25 yards, using the open passener door, leaning through the open window for a rough (and somewhat unsteady) rest. I decided not to try longer ranges, as it door as a rest was iffy at best! The results did, however, show relative impacts between the rounds, and between the different carbines.

First I shot the Standard Products with 3 loads: R-P 110 FMJ factory, Rainier Ballistics 110 copper plated over 14.6 grains of WW296, and Bear Creek 115 grain moly coated over 11 grains Alliant 2400. As you can see from the center target, the SP loves Remington factory. The left target is the Rainier Ballistic plated bullets. Basically the same point of impact, though not quite as tight a group as the factory, the report and felt recoil of the Rainier ballistic rounds was impossible to discern from the Remington factory ones.. The Bear Creek shot really low, and I actually fired them first, discovering that I had moved my sight over, but had not moved it back. I moved the sight left and then shot the other two loads in the other two targets. I also switched the rear to 200 setting and fired some 115 Bears creeks off-hand at pine cones at 50-70 yards with a 6 o'cloc hold. Killed them all. When I went to shoot some more on paper, I found I had only grabbed the 10 rounds I just fired. Oh well, next time.

Then I shot the un-messed with Inland. Using the flip sight on 100/150, the factory Remington placed about the same POI as the S-P did with the factory, though not as tight a group. What was really surprising was that the Rainier ballistic copper plated grouped very tight (except for a called flyer), it was lower and way left of the factory load - this being unlike the S-P where they printed the same. So much for the vagaries and whimsies of different barrels! I would have expected them to print the same in the Inland as they did in the S-P

In a couple weeks, after I finish my Stag Arms lower M4gery build, I plan on getting oof my lazy backside and going to a real rifle range to try the same comparisons from a shooting bench. The open door is such a poor rest, that the moved impact could also be attributed to me shifting my precarious position in the open window.

Once again, however, even this test show that the Type III band, potbelly stock, and Type II sight shoot superior to the Type I band and slim stock with flip sights. Upgrades were for a very good reason. BTW, the Inland has an ME of less than 1, and the SP has an ME of 1-1.5.

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[bonnoughj]

Cool. Good job

[painter777]

IMR,
Did the 14.6 WW296 seem like it gave you enough.......... UUMMMPPHH?

CH-P777

[ww321q]

They all look promising to me . Need more testing to be sure.

[imarangemaster]

IMR,
Did the 14.6 WW296 seem like it gave you enough.......... UUMMMPPHH?

CH-P777

Yep, though I may try 15 grains just for grins and giggles. I really couldn't tell the difference from factory. Someone (USGI maybe) said he loaded the plated bullets with 14.7 grains, though I forget why. My measure was throwing 14.6 grains, so I didn't mess with it. I had zero malfunctions witheither factory or 110 Rainier plated laods in both rifles. I was surprised, however, that I actually had two Failures to Fire with the moly loads. I think I have the moly bullets set a tiny bit too far forward, and the ogive is hitting the throat, not letting the bolt roate in. I also hade two failures to feed with the moly bullet loads from this 15 rounder I was using today. I shot about 100 rounds of the moly loads last range session, from a USGI 30 with zero failures to feed. I have a feeling this this is the 15 rounder that caused some failures to feed with factory in the Inland a few months ago. I think I will mark it.

[painter777]

I used up the Berry's 110gr platedRN's I had.
Loaded with 15 WW296,
Surprisingly consistent, same issue 1 15rd mag acting up, but didn't get it marked. Got placed back in the bag with other empties.
It will show up again. Nice shooting, Thx for sharing.
Hoping for a warm up here to melt some snow. I'll just keep reloading.........

CH-P777

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Good report.

But more importantly, I want your job. Well, maybe not, I like being retired and not having any job.

[imarangemaster]

Good report.

But more importantly, I want your job. Well, maybe not, I like being retired and not having any job.

Haha! As retirement jobs go, it is pretty darn good. I work three or four 12 hour shifts a week. Usually 1630 to 0430, so I can get home and get asleep before it gets light. Yes, I am retired from a sheriff's office, but it isn't enough, so I do this. SOme pics I took this weekend and last:

The upper route I do




the lower route






for perspective, those roll up doors in the last picture are about 35 feet high!

[painter777]

No ice fisherman?
No ice fishing shanties?

This is Feb 2 right?

CH-P777

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

It's also California Charlie.