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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    Including, possibly, the action body itself
    I guess it could be resurrected...but the take-off parts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maple_Leaf_Eh View Post
    The good thing about No.4s is there are millions of parts in circulation. You pointed out the importer reportedly brought in a bunch of Pakistani spares. Piece by piece pull and compare. The rest of the rifle might be worth restoring, but the missing US Property marking might reduce the resale value.
    I actually have plenty of Savage No4's in the collection, so have no intention of restoring it. This may sound strange, but I purchased it because of its current condition.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    Including, possibly, the action body itself, you think?
    First thing I did when I stripped it down was compare it to a couple of Savage Action bodies I had laying around and it is Savage made. The only things missing/wrong was the scrubbed "US Property" and the 1944 date on the butt socket. Savage did not date any rifles after 1943.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve H. in N.Y. View Post
    and note the stamps on the underside (pic. #8)-I think nobody in Pakistan would bother to forge those.
    Oddly, the quality of their copies varies so much that some Kyber Pass specials do imitate even the minor inspectors' marks. But if the side by side inspection shows no further questionable features, then no doubt from this end. Hands-on is generally best!

    I like it "as is" for what it is. But would not shoot it except possibly with a .32 ACP adaptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlvaughn View Post
    I actually have plenty of Savage No4's in the collection, so have no intention of restoring it. This may sound strange, but I purchased it because of its current condition.



    First thing I did when I stripped it down was compare it to a couple of Savage Action bodies I had laying around and it is Savage made. The only things missing/wrong was the scrubbed "US Property" and the 1944 date on the butt socket. Savage did not date any rifles after 1943.
    I think that you are wrong, the receiver is not Savage manufactured. Look at the sidewall contour and the contour under the safety hole. In addition the markings dont appear to be straight and the "S" is clip cornered.

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    I think it's a great find. It won't be too long from now that these relics will be hard to find. An advanced collection needs stuff like this.

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    Here are a few pics of some side by side comparisons.

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    I still think it's a Khyber special. I'd leave it alone and have it as an example of that. I think they're fascinating as just what they are. I'd love to have a copy of each model available, just not for too much money...
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    BAR: don't you think that action body is real? So a Kyhber pass "FTR". My favorite is the bolt-head- the threads look like what you might find on a $3.00 c-clamp at Canadianicon Tire. Like you, I'd love to have a couple of these in the old collection. By the way, did you find anything of note at the Calgary show?

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    After re-reading the comments and looking closer at the comparisons, I have to change my opinion. That is doesn't look like a genuine Savage. Tagged and duly identified as a likely Kyber Pass copy, it would be appropriate for any No.4 collection. The danger of course is in 50yrs time someone will mistake it as a long lost, hand made, tool room special edition from the secret archives of Savage Arms and foist it on an unsuspecting newcomer.

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