At a Portland gunshow yesterday, I found one vendor with Aguila .30 Carbine ammo for $23 but most were pricing their carbine ammo anywhere from $30-$60. The $60 was for soft points. I saw 100rd CCI "mini-mags" for $20 and asked the guy if he was serious. His comment was, "They may not sell today, but they will eventuallly." Most of the regular ammo vendors had bulk packs of .22LR priced at $80. - Bob