Interesting. I'll have to try that. I wonder why still using your hand to grasp it would make a difference. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I either used bags or that caldwell green thingy with the U shape in it. And then my left hand on the rear stock.

To be honest, I thought 4-5/8 was pretty good at 100 yards. For a carbine. But maybe I could tighten that up. The first group I posted was the very first group I shot and I think I found a 4-3/16" group at 100 when looking through them. That third pic is 10 rounds.

I forget what kind of groups you were getting. I do remember thinking yours shot real well. Or you shot them well. One of the two or both.