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It looks like somewhere along the line the serial number has been removed and replaced with the one shown. You can see grind or file marks.
Underwoods T code (Intertype Corp) serial number range is 2,355,000-2,400,000
The Irwin Pedersen rear sight is worth a couple hundred dollars on it's own.
I was thinking about that too but I think it's just a mark if it had been filed it would have another mark either on the top or the side.
I was using the short sight it was the first time I shot it and I was as gitty as a school girl lol
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11-08-2013 01:37 PM
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So does anyone have an idea how much it is worth?
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That's a tough one. As another member said, the IP rear sight is worth a couple hundred by itself. The carbine as a whole, however, is difficult. Intertype contract Underwoods are scarce, but without knowing who ground off the serial number, or why, value is iffy. I am by no means an expert, but the serial number being an odd hand-stamp moves it towards just a shooter. If that flip sight is not original to it, I would remove it and sell it, and put a milled adjustable type II and use it as a shooter. The true experts may have a better handle on it, though.
Last edited by imarangemaster; 11-08-2013 at 08:54 PM.
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Non-collectable factors obvious to me:
Round bolt a replacement,
stock sanded,
rear sight replaced (?????) someone with more knowledge than me can comment on this one.
Type III barrel band not original
ground off serial number
Positives:
piece of history
sweet looking carbine with a lot of original parts with good finish
Its an M1
Carbine, that says it all.....
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Well I got it for $420. It came with 140 rounds of M1
garand ammo of those 90 were black tip 6 red tip and 15 Orange tip. I think it was a good deal
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I would say yes, a good deal
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I'm not a lawyer but the serial number has been changed, period, and that might be a problem. I won't advise you what to do but I think if it were mine I would seek legal advice and/or try to determine if the serial number change was legal, or turn the receiver in to the cops. If it's hot it just isn't worth it. Just my opinion and I welcome confirming and dissenting opinions from the forum.
Correction: First thing I would do is try to return it and get my money back from the seller!!!!
Last edited by ChipS; 11-09-2013 at 10:47 PM.
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Originally Posted by
ChipS
I'm not a lawyer but the serial number has been changed, period, and that might be a problem. I won't advise you what to do but I think if it were mine I would seek legal advice and/or try to determine if the serial number change was legal, or turn the receiver in to the cops. If it's hot it just isn't worth it. Just my opinion and I welcome confirming and dissenting opinions from the forum.
Correction: First thing I would do is try to return it and get my money back from the seller!!!!
This......... what ChipS said, and the old saying if it sounds too good too be true. I would be concerned.
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The US Military is known to have restamped serial numbers inadvertently removed during refinishing. ATF has been helpful by approving the civilian ownership of such guns. If it were me, I'd send a copy of your excellent photo to ATF headquarters (NOT a field office, NOT local police) & request their approval. Worst case: an agent will visit you & seize the carbine. Best case: they will give you an approval letter that will improve the resale value.
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All may not be lost. There is a member here who back in July 2009 showed a ground off serial number. Only showing an S on the left and G on the right. (SAGINAW S.G.) After working with them they, ATF, stamped a new number on the left side of the receiver.
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