Eddystone P14 sniper rifle

[mudgee]

Can anyone tell me more about these sniper rifles are they rare and what would you need oto know if you saw one. might be getting onto one in the near future.

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[Brian Dick]

P'14 sniper rifles were made by Winchester not Eddystone.

[Badger]

Check the MKL in the Sniper Rifles Category (click here) for both examples including the BSA and PP scope versions, plus the Alexander Matin conversion ...

Check the Knowledge Library for extensive photo montages and all examples of P14 sniper rifles

No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (BSA Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)
(Manufactured by Winchester - Serial #W226763)
c/w Model 1918 (3x) Scope Serial #226763 (Mfg by B.S.A Guns)
c/w 1907 Pattern leather sling


No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (PP Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)
(Manufactured by Winchester - Serial #W196128)

c/w Model 1918 (3x) Scope (Mfg by Periscopic Prism Co. Ltd.)
c/w 1908 Web Pattern sling (Mfg in 1913 by M.E. Co.)

No.3 MkI* (T)A Sniper Rifle - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T)A Sniper Rifle)
(Manufactured by Winchester) Serial #W209977
Sniper conversion by Alexander Martin (Glasgow) - Scope Mount Serial #209977

c/w Model 1916 (3x) Pattern 4 Scope Serial #71262
(Mfg by Aldis Bros. - Birmingham)

c/w 1907 Pattern leather sling
(Mfg by W.T.& B. Co. - 1918)
(Also marked J.J.M. - 1918)

Hope that helps ...

Regards,
Doug

[Promo]

Post a picture of what you're referring to. And for the first (and last time probably aswell) to correct Brian Dick: Eddystone did manufacture rifles which were converted to snipers, but these were the rifles which were equipped with the Canadian Warner & Swasey Musket Sights which were originally used on Ross Rifles. The only two original war pictures clearly show an Eddystone stock on the rifle being used. But so far I've never been able to locate one of those.

[gsimmons]

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[Brian Dick]

Anything is possible. I don't doubt that some Eddystone and Remington rifles may have been converted to snipers on a small scale w/W&S and Winchester A5 scopes but the production P'14T sniper rifles were Winchesters. The reasoning is much the same as the standardization of the BSA No.4's for British sniper rifle production which has been discussed here at length in the past.

[Promo]

I'm pretty sure the OP is not talking about one of those, but for the slight 1:1.000.000 chance that he indeed comes across one of those I wanted to make sure that he doesn't refuse to buy it and tells the owner that he has assembled crap and the whole rifle would then probably be sporterized .

M1917 were converted with the Winchester A5 telescope, but only for experimental reasons. I've seen P.14 rifles equipped with similar scopes from the Ammunition Fabrication Footscray, but these were obviously no field-used snipers of which we're talking about. Of those with the only exception of the rifle gsimmons has posted us a picture of were of Winchester production. By the way, the guy in the picture is the Perth Regiment sniper Jack Bailey, taken on 29th of January near Orsogna, Italy.

[Brian Dick]

That's a great picture. Those rifles were converted in the field by Armourers. Most folks don't realize that the P'14T soldiered on well into WWII until the No.4T became plentiful enough to issue.

[Promo]

Attached the second picture of the same sniper.

[breakeyp]

Brian, for what its worth, I have an Eddystone marked Fine tune adjustable rear sight that may have been altered for a Fine Tune "sniper" rifle. As you know, most of the FT sights are altered Winchester for use on Winchester rifles.