I had a 444 Marlin in the 70's a 336 Marlin Micro groove L.A shooting Hornady 240 grain HP at 2,400 fps reloads rather nasty both ends good if you like gutting skinning and big holes in things all at once very good at scrub where I used it to hunt porkers, had a bloke who knew all about recoil so let him shoot it after warning him so left him to it and bingo looky here Weatherby eye 4 stitches later.........dumass